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Old 03-21-2012, 04:22 PM
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Well, according to all of these ballers in this thread, 500pp+ since "Druids can make more per hour killing sea furies in OOT."

I can speak to the comparative opportunity cost of porting vs. quadding seafuries.

After a sample size of 750-1000 seafuries I can tell you that the average seafury drops an average of 41pp in coin, gem and other vendor loot. Killing Seafuries equates to an average of 164pp per quad. This averages about 800pp an hour. If there's very few people killing them, you can make 1000pp an hour and if there's a lot of people fighting for them (in which case I usually do something else), it can be as bad as 200-400pp an hour.

As a wizard, it takes about 70%-80% of my mana pool (decent gear, not uber) to quad. To port someone and then self port somewhere (not factoring in running time), the mana it would equate to would be 37pp.

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This is why porters are rare sometimes.. people aren't willing to tip enough to make it worth their while.


It's usually people leveling up trying to afford spells or mid level gear that do ports.


I guarantee if somebody shouted.. WTB port 500 plat they would get one fairly quickly.
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Old 03-21-2012, 04:33 PM
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I get this definition for donation btw:

do·na·tion   [doh-ney-shuhn]
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1. an act or instance of presenting something as a gift, grant, or contribution.
2. a gift, as to a fund; contribution.

I do not see where it mentions voluntary, however, looking further into being literal, look at "voluntary":

vol·un·tar·y   [vol-uhn-ter-ee]
adjective
1.done, made, brought about, undertaken, etc., of one's own accord or by free choice: a voluntary contribution.
2.of, pertaining to, or acting in accord with the will: voluntary cooperation.

A voluntary donation does not necessarily mean optional, it means done by your own choice. If you choose not to, you do not meet the requirement of "porting for donations".
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Old 03-21-2012, 04:39 PM
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yah like a charity dinner or whatever..


you need to donate to get a seat at the table.
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Old 03-21-2012, 04:40 PM
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itt: semantic arguements

just dont be a dick. there ya go, hunger/war solved.

dont be a motherfuckin dick
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Old 03-21-2012, 04:41 PM
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Perfect analogy. Just because it's a donation of an amount specified by the contributor does not mean a sum of 0 still counts as a donation ($1 or 1pp would, however at charities you will often see "minimum donation of $xxx for seating").
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Old 03-21-2012, 04:43 PM
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This is what I love about EverQuest players, they're so passionate about everything.

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Old 03-21-2012, 04:53 PM
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I always tip 30pp for ports. I also always pay 20pp to clerics I group with for their pdot expenditure.
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Old 03-21-2012, 05:02 PM
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MY time is worth plat. Seriously. If I want to go somewhere in Norrath, depending on where, it can take anywhere from 15mins running to around an hour or more to boat/run.

Now for people who have around 12 hours to play a night/day, I guess the time is worth very little. I tend to be online alot evenings, but only actually playing a couple three hours a night, so NOT having to run or boat is pretty valuable to me. If I spend an hour getting from EC to OT via running, rafting, then boating, thats around 1/3 of my available time, or more! I tip 25-30p most times, if ii have the cash and dude was on top of my request (i.e. I /ooc LF port to (xx), and i get a tell within 20 seconds) then I will tip 50. ATM I'm not high enough to be lookin for the more complicated ones, but IF I was looking for an evac or P/U, I would tip more.

Now, not everyone always has that much plat to spare, even in the 30's and 40's due to upgrading gear, spells, and I dont expect ppl to pay what anyone else does, but I know there are ALOT of ppl who tip 15g. or 5p. If even. I can understand this from a low lvl who is relatively new. But to the guys with manastones and 100's k in the bank, thats weak man. They ARE doing you a service, regardless of the cost to THEM. If MY time is worth plat....What is theirs worth ?

I really dont get why tipping for ports is such a big deal tbh if all druids QUIT porting, you guys would start foaming at the mouth heh.
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Old 03-21-2012, 05:08 PM
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wow didn't realize people tipped that bad.


I usually do 50~100 plat
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Old 03-21-2012, 05:37 PM
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Every port/buff tipping thread is like a weird, twisted debate on legislating morality.

It's boring discussing it w/ my girlfriend for the thousandth time, & even more so in EQ.
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