Americans and Guns (post pics of your armory !)

[JenJen]

i think you already know the answer stealin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by JenJen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i think you already know the answer stealin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://news.yahoo.com/police-hero-sa...221520051.html

Take this story. Imagine that all those people in that cafe were armed, how many do you think would have been killed by the gunman before he was killed? Imagine if only the guy who threw some stools had a gun, how many do you think he could have saved?

The problem in America isn't that we have the right to carry a firearm to protect ourselves, it's that so few choose to. Granted some areas make it extremely hard to carry a firearm for personal protection, but it doesn't slow the rate crimes committed with firearms.

[lilyanna]

Out of interest what are the statistics on firearm deaths in America, outside of those in the armed forces?

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by lilyanna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Out of interest what are the statistics on firearm deaths in America, outside of those in the armed forces?

Choosing to murder someone can happen with a knife, bleach, or a toaster oven. If you are claiming that it's easier to kill someone with a gun, then I would argue that it's easier to protect yourself with a gun.

In England, if someone breaks into your home, I suppose you grab your bats and knives. Are swords legal?

Are these figures accurate? I looked up crime rates in England.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...of-Europe.html

The total number of violent offences recorded compared to population is higher than any other country in Europe, as well as America, Canada, Australia and South Africa.

Not trolling. Are the non - U.S. citizens in this thread upset because we have guns, or are they upset they do not? Surely you don't think we are going to bring our guns to your country and kill you with them.

[JenJen]

hoho this will be good.
bearing in mind 90% of these will have nothing to do with "protecting" yourself

[JenJen]

yes i am just making that figure up

[Autotune]

Oh man, now that you guys mention it, I forgot it is impossible to kill people without a gun. Yes, we must ban all guns now, because it is safer. Look at the European countries, they have 0 murders committed since the strict firearm enforcement, people only die from old age there.

[lilyanna]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh man, now that you guys mention it, I forgot it is impossible to kill people without a gun. Yes, we must ban all guns now, because it is safer. Look at the European countries, they have 0 murders committed since the strict firearm enforcement, people only die from old age there.

Lol who said zero, I was really curious. There is a gun culture in this country as well, especially with gangs in inner cities.

People come from different countries and cultures and therefore are bound to have different mindsets. I'm not knocking them on their opinion just because it's different to mine and it is actually interesting to note how people view things differently.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by lilyanna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol who said zero, I was really curious. There is a gun culture in this country as well, especially with gangs in inner cities.

People come from different countries and cultures and therefore are bound to have different mindsets. I'm not knocking them on their opinion just because it's different to mine and it is actually interesting to note how people view things differently.

my opinion is - I'd rather be allowed to have equal-ish force to what outlaws have. "When seconds count, the police are only minutes away. I choose to defend myself." - somewhat popular saying.

[Danyelle]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

my opinion is - I'd rather be allowed to have equal-ish force to what outlaws have. "When seconds count, the police are only minutes away. I choose to defend myself." - somewhat popular saying.

Pretty much this.

While I don't agree with the redneck consensus that owning a gun automatically makes you a badass and more of a "man" than anyone unarmed..I do agree banning them is pointless. Tighten your grip, more people will find ways to get at them anyways...unregulated at that. You know...like drugs?

Besides, it IS a defense tool. Not everyone has enough muscle to knock the (likely rather strong) assailant that just hit you, flat on his face in a single hit. Some people need a little more. Some people choose knives, some even choose shit like katanas. Others choose guns.


















Also you won't be complaining about the ability to own firearms when the zombies come, just saying :P