naming policy rules... what are they?

[guineapig]

Seriously, can I have a cleric named Panacea?
I'm so unsure about anything anymore...

[pickled_heretic]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Seriously, can I have a cleric named Panacea?
I'm so unsure about anything anymore...

Officially, you can have whatever name Cyrius decides you can have. That is the only criterion other than having a non-offensive name. You'll have to ask him if you can keep it.

[eqdruid76]

At this point, it's gotten so out of hand, I don't think there's much the GMs can do about it.

A lot of people will threaten to ragequit if their retarded names are changed. Whether they do or not is another matter, but they'll certainly bitch about it on here.

There aren't a whole lot of "offensive" names, as defined by the server rules. It's mainly "annoying", "retarded", or "stupid" names, which the majoirity of P99 players have.

/shrug What I find an annoying name may not bother anyone else, though.

[Bumamgar]

I understand that people are attached to their names for a variety of reasons, and that the prospect of having one's name changed is upsetting to many.

However, the bashing of Cyrius in this thread is unacceptable. He is not acting in a vacuum or arbitrarily changing names on a whim. He is following the same guidelines as the other guides on this server. Guidelines which are nearly identical to the naming guidelines provided to guides on live servers.

These guidelines are currently being reviewed and will be posted publicly soon.

If you feel that your name has been changed incorrectly, a clearly worded polite post in the petition forum is the proper way to address the situation. Angry posts in this forum are not.

[Kainzo]

Even on live, Senior guides made name changes but always followed the rules/policies, as well as their best judgement.

I don't think there is any foul play involved, if you feel you've been cheated, direct a message to the staff, make a post in the petition forum or get on IRC and rant.

[Dumesh Uhl'Belk]

Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They couldn't charge for it if they wanted to, so I'm not sure what point you're getting at.

The point is, we as players are being offered something for free. We are not in a position to haggle. We can approach the people offering us this free stuff and politely ask if they might offer it in a slightly different way, but we have no moral or ethical leg to stand on in demanding that they change anything.

If we were paying customers, we would have legal and ethical rights, but we aren't.

Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The real issue is that cyrius is enforcing a nonexistant naming policy. Fine. Whatever. Let's get it codified and enforced and see how long it lasts.

According to Bumamgar, the policy is real, even if we are not privy to all the details. Granted, that I have the benefit of his post before responding to you, but you were still making an assumption that because you were not aware of something, that it did not exist.

Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Right now, we're seeing sunshine enforcement where a few people get their names changed once a month when it is fun and convenient to do so while the vast majority of legitimately offensive names remain untouched and preferential treatment is granted toward some members. The fact that cyrius threatened to begin actually enforcing the rules a few posts ago is proof of this. If the current enforcement was globalized and made consistent, the possibility of enough 'moral outrage' for a 'movement' (if you insist on using those words) is very real.

We are playing on this server at the pleasure of the devs. I'm sure that anyone unwilling to play under the devs terms is welcome to not play. If 400 people want to quit because they can't be named "Astro Physics" or "Cocoa Puffs" or "Autom Aticrifle" or whatever, then P1999 will mostly likely roll right along with 450 people in prime-time instead of 850. As I said, and Bumamgar echoed... the proper way to handle this is a polite petition and/or private message.

We are not paying customers, so we don't have the right to get outraged and make demands of the dev staff, period. Doing otherwise is ungrateful and rude.

[Dumesh Uhl'Belk]

Charms, please fix your quote tags so that it doesn't look like I said the things that you were saying in response.

SoE may have acted as if we had no rights, but we most certainly did under consumer protection laws.

I don't think making the details of the character naming policy public is a bad idea. If I were more concerned about the issue, I might politely (and privately) ask the devs to do so. However, I have no illusions that they owe it to me. If they want to keep that policy private, that is their prerogative.

[Pheer]

Originally Posted by Dumesh Uhl'Belk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Charms, please fix your quote tags so that it doesn't look like I said the things that you were saying in response.

SoE may have acted as if we had no rights, but we most certainly did under consumer protection laws.

I don't think making the details of the character naming policy public is a bad idea. If I were more concerned about the issue, I might politely (and privately) ask the devs to do so. However, I have no illusions that they owe it to me. If they want to keep that policy private, that is their prerogative.

Are you kidding me? You expect a playerbase to follow an invisible naming policy?

Of course they don't "owe" us anything. We're not entitled to anything but if they *want people to play* then stuff like this has to be handled better. Its retarded to run around punishing people for something that isnt even in the rules yet.

[Healthcare]

Here's a thread with an awful lot of character names that I think are going to have to be changed:

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ad.php?t=10034

Why not just change the blatantly offensive/inappropriate ones and leave the rest be? Otherwise, this name policy needs to be made public and official and everyone should have their name changed.

[oldhead]

Originally Posted by Healthcare [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's a thread with an awful lot of character names that I think are going to have to be changed:

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ad.php?t=10034

Why not just change the blatantly offensive/inappropriate ones and leave the rest be? Otherwise, this name policy needs to be made public and official and everyone should have their name changed.

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