My proposal for Raiding guilds and GMs of P1999

[Otto]

Ok. Raids.

I stopped being hardcore a few months ago due to student teaching taking up the majority of my day. And night. However, when I came back, I continued to not raid due to this camping ridiculousness.

I believe the words that were said in a previous topic were, 'IB is too good at mobilizing so they forced us to start camping mobs'. This made me laugh because it is so false.

What? Seriously? I can GUARANTEE there are some equally skilled if not better players who devote more time to EQ than myself and multiple IB members who are in fact not members of IB. That line is so wrong its laughable. We've lost races to targets before. It WILL happen again, so long as camping mobs stops.

A Rotation is completely unnecessary. What we need is for everyone to agree that camping is bullshit (which it appears everyone has) and go back to racing or make some new setup that is pseudo first to engage/ffa that is agreed upon by the guilds who are raiding. It's time to put on our big boy pants and stop crying to Nilbog and Rogean when things don't go our way.

The problem now lies in the fact that both DA and IB are so badly at each others throats, no one seems to be willing to stop camping first. By joining in on the big sit, IB did nothing but exacerbate the problem. Who knows, maybe things would've been worse if we didn't join in... but I for one never thought it to be necessary, and that's why I have four alts now =p

tl;dr

Show up to the next guild meeting and stop being a bunch of children.

[Nizzarr]

All of you guys are pretty fucking sad. No one barely commenting on the actual ideas of the rotation. Just fucking bickering and childish flaming attitude.

Then GMs wants us to find a solutions. I guess IB doesnt want a solution. So we're back at square one. Good fucking job, idiots.

I posted this thread, then our voice over ip server gets DDoS'ed. Let's say I have ideas who did it.

[Icecometus]

At this point only 4 guilds are up in the planes with any frequency: Div, DA, IB and Remedy. Not sure what these other guilds are you speak of, Trans is all but finished (sorry Supreme). IMO these guilds have a right to a rotation.

I would remove the variance from the mobs. Each week the 4 guilds in the rotation would random for first pick. The mini bosses in fear and hate would be included with their God and the guild that chose that God would get 2 mini boss kills for that week. Once the target has spawned the guild that claimed them has 24 hours to kill the mob or it becomes up for grabs (see the current raid system). You would not get to choose the same target 2 weeks in a row of course.

A timestamped screenshot of the mobs corpse would be required to be posted on these forums so that the accurate time of the respawn could be determined.

Occam's Razor...

[Supreme]

Originally Posted by Gwence [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can open your own server if you want to. I dont understand why you're demanding Rogean does it. The Emu code is available to everyone, knock yourself out.

No where have i demanded that anyone do it. I have on numerous posts stated that i would do it both development and finances.

I have posted the idea of a server that is like p1999 but will have a GM enforced raid rotation system. That system will be developed by the guilds themselves but it must give member guilds the chance at content.

[Alawen Everywhere]

Originally Posted by Nizzarr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All of you guys are pretty fucking sad. No one barely commenting on the actual ideas of the rotation. Just fucking bickering and childish flaming attitude.

Then GMs wants us to find a solutions. I guess IB doesnt want a solution. So we're back at square one. Good fucking job, idiots.

I posted this thread, then our voice over ip server gets DDoS'ed. Let's say I have ideas who did it.

If Dark Ascension stops camping, the camping will stop.

Your idea is not very good. No one likes it. You're taking it personally. You talk about being civil, and then you curse and call people names.

Well done.

[Thorjorkill]

Supreme you know that you are looking at a MINIMUM of 3-5k to just get started right?

You want reasons, how bout I give you 10 reasons to absolve your retardedness...

1)Community Fracture
2)Hosting costs
3)Hardware costs
4)Emergency Maintenance
5)Data Maintenance
6)Smaller player pool for each server - and good luck with maintaining costs while building a consistent playerbase willing to donate
7)Donations rolling in on TWO servers is sure to raise some eyebrows
8)More of the same horseshit once populations stabilize (you've not fixed a DAMN thing)
9)GMs/Guides (there is enough work here already)
10)People solving problems by throwing money at social issues deserve to be shot. (Yes put that skinny $%^& out on the white house lawn and put one in the back of his head...)


I'll bet if I really thought about it, I can do ten more, but I winged it.

I understand you want to do your own thing, what are you proposing, the devs hand over a copy and let you do your thing with it? Oh hells no... Proposing to pay them for it won't go over well at all either, and again, eyebrows will start going up. I already know their is some chatter going on over at SOE's EQLive team office regarding this server, we may not want to push it... Before anyone starts flapping their jack about how "SOE can't do anything" they had better start doing some research.

[sidgb]

You start randoming for bosses you had best make room for PuG raids and thats where it will always fall apart. Top guilds always assume they have first dibs on content and any guild with 20 - 50+ toons consideres themselves a top guild capable of handling this content. PuG raids are more than capable of taking down any of these bosses and there are plenty of capable raid leaders on this server that can and have led them numerous times on live.

If random drives this, get ready to compete against 10 raids for content...or be ready to be back here arguing over it all over again.

It would be funny to see three guilds camping a boss to make sure the fourth guild got his shot over some PuG raid. just so the "top guilds" could maintain a stranglehold on content. Reminds me of the c-block on PoP content worked out between Explicit and Wraith back on Quellious.

[Icecometus]

This is an agreement between the guilds that are currently raiding. PuG raids are not happening so why should we make considerations for them...

[sidgb]

Originally Posted by Icecometus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is an agreement between the guilds that are currently raiding. PuG raids are not happening so why should we make considerations for them...

This is my point exactly. If mobilization and camping are no longer the deciding factor on access to content, the mob becomes a practical option for PuGs reguardless of how the "top guilds" feel about it.

[Thorjorkill]

Originally Posted by Icecometus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is an agreement between the guilds that are currently raiding. PuG raids are not happening so why should we make considerations for them...

Because the way the situation currently stands, PUG groups CAN'T happen. You douches can rationalize "how everything is fine" all you want. Its not - and its not going to get any better until some sort of compromise breaks that can be SOMEWHAT in the spirit of fairness for everyone - including planned PUGS... It won't be perfect, but we have a fair share of mature, intelligent EQ players here that are at the top of their game and social structure to figure something out - without all the god damned drama of how they want their Epeen to shine like a golden rod of geekdome.