Trump Keeps Winning

[clevergirl]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Defend this retardation.

"We have a healthcare plan, but you need to elect us before we tell you what it is. Also, when we controlled the house, the senate, and the presidency, we did NOTHING on healthcare except try to sneak in a tax cut for the wealthy and repeal near-universally supported provisions on the extent to which insurance companies can abuse you".

Nobody likes their private health insurance except those who are too ignorant to know how badly they are being assfucked. That's why there is so much fervor surrounding healthcare in this country, even among the middle and upper middle class.

Want to fix healthcare and keep it """"free market"""" (insurance company rape-fest)? Make it so when an insurance company sells a plan, it must publish the outcomes of people who are enrolled in that plan, including mortality, total amount paid by enrollees (all copays, balance bills, etc on average per year), % denied claims, cancer survival rates, functional mobility outcome measures 3 months following hospital discharge, etc). Insurance companies have all this information available because that is how they calculate their premiums and disbursements. This would actually motivate insurance companies to seek the best outcomes for their members rather than pursue a strategy of systematic claims denial and cost-cutting. If the 'invisible hand' actually worked and consumers were rational actors they would already be demanding this information from insurance companies. Alas, libertarians are gullible retards and hybridized free market healthcare is a scam that nobody likes.

Imagine if insurance company competition was "people in our plan with your level of health live 3 years longer on average" instead of "Our plan is only $3459 a year but when you're unconscious in the hospital we're going to deny every one of your claims and force your oncologist to file a mountain of paperwork to pre-authorize mundane diagnostic procedures if he wants to be reimbursed"

Additionally, people would be able to compare the outcomes of their own plan with medicare and, better yet, socialized coverage in other countries and directly see just how shitty their care is under American private insurance.

And please charge those responsible for manslaughter. And try them in the states. Not the fed. Alex Azar, Rick Scott, others should be criminally liable for medical fraud and the suffering they've caused because of their greed.

[Patriam1066]

Rescind EMTALA, stop government coverage for dialysis, sugar tax, BMI > 29 tax (10% of income per year above 29 BMI), all 80 year olds automatic DNR. Opioids illegal to possess or manufacture, china nuked every time Chinese fentanyl results in an OD death

[Patriam1066]

No coverage for non citizens. Go to your curandero (or back home)

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No coverage for non citizens. Go to your curandero (or back home)

if they dont have coverage the government pays. its like way illegal to deny emergency care to anyone.

[FatherSioux]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if they dont have coverage the government pays. its like way illegal to deny emergency care to anyone.

Illegal like sneaking into a country illegally?

[maskedmelon]

was gonna make a poast, butt it wasn't any good, so decided I would just say hi.

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by FatherSioux [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Illegal like sneaking into a country illegally?

applies to everyone without coverage, ye of little dingus.

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if they dont have coverage the government pays. its like way illegal to deny emergency care to anyone.

I said end EMTALA. That means ending that

[Thorondor]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I said end EMTALA. That means ending that

You'll have to forgive him. He doesn't really know anything outside of the parroted rebuttals his programming permits him to post; as evidenced by his "Antarctica is Melting" rant the other day, despite NASA confirming its expansion multiple times now.

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I said end EMTALA. That means ending that

ron paul lost get over it