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Old 06-05-2023, 07:44 PM
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In conclusion, if you want a pet, SK is the best tank.
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Old 06-05-2023, 09:23 PM
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In conclusion, if you want a pet, SK is the best tank.
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Old 06-06-2023, 12:40 PM
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In conclusion, if you want a pet, SK is the best tank.
A pet, fd, and a much cooler/more useful epic imo.
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Old 06-06-2023, 01:12 PM
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A pet, fd, and a much cooler/more useful epic imo.
Epic Def better but purely dps wise both gonna use tuna or vulak so it's all same. Pet/fd vs lull,root,heals,mini torp. Sk does more in group content that no one cares about , both parse similar in raids. This whole thing is DSM nonsense, hope that helps.
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Old 06-06-2023, 01:19 PM
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Epic Def better but purely dps wise both gonna use tuna or vulak so it's all same. Pet/fd vs lull,root,heals,mini torp. Sk does more in group content that no one cares about , both parse similar in raids. This whole thing is DSM nonsense, hope that helps.
It's pretty clear you don't understand raiding if you think SKs and Paladins are DPS classes in raids.

Nobody cares that you do not care about solo/group content. It's not relevant to the discussion. Hope this helps.

Ripqozko's argument is akin to saying "Mage DPS is the same as Cleric DPS in Raids".
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Old 06-06-2023, 01:36 PM
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It's pretty clear you don't understand raiding if you think SKs and Paladins are DPS classes in raids.

Nobody cares that you do not care about solo/group content. It's not relevant to the discussion. Hope this helps.

Ripqozko's argument is akin to saying "Mage DPS is the same as Cleric DPS in Raids".
No one said they are dps classes I said they do about the same dps dumbass
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Old 06-06-2023, 01:37 PM
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No one said they are dps classes I said they do about the same dps dumbass
You said "both parse similar in raids". That is irrelevant for a non-DPS class in raids.

A Paladin could do zero DPS in a raid and nobody would complain.

The only time Paladin/Shadowknight DPS matters is in Solo/Group content. Not sure how this is difficult to understand.

I get the point you are trying to make, and you are correct. If both a Paladin and Shadowknight simply autoattack with the same weapon, their DPS is the same. But that only occurs in raiding, and in raiding nobody is banking on their DPS to do anything.
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Old 06-06-2023, 01:40 PM
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You said "both parse similar in raids". That is irrelevant for a non-DPS class in raids.

A Paladin could do zero DPS in a raid and nobody would complain.

The only time Paladin/Shadowknight DPS matters is in Solo/Group content. Not sure how this is difficult to understand.
They do tho that quote doesn't mean they are dps classes
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Old 06-06-2023, 01:43 PM
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They do tho that quote doesn't mean they are dps classes
If they aren't DPS classes in raids, why are you using raid DPS as the benchmark?

That is like saying Mages do terrible DPS because they don't use their pets in raids. It is true that Mages don't DPS in raids, but you are missing the point of why Mages exist in raids.

Mages do much better DPS in Solo/Group content, where they can use their pets.

You are basically creating this strawman scenario where you are saying "raiding is the only thing that matters, therefore SK's can't use their pets, therefore DPS is the same". It's a nonsensical argument.
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Old 06-06-2023, 01:43 PM
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If they aren't DPS classes in raids, why are you using raid DPS as the benchmark?

That is like saying Mages do terrible DPS in raid because they don't use their pets. This is true, but you are missing the point of why Mages exist in raids.

They do much better DPS in Solo/Group content, where they can use their pets.

You are basically creating this strawman scenario where you are saying "raiding is the only thing that matters, therefore SK's can't use their pets, therefore DPS is the same". It's a nonsensical argument.
Why are you so upset that when they do attack they are similar? I know their role isn't that
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