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Old 02-19-2024, 11:37 AM
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The only reason I came back to this thread was because I realized I made a miscalculation.





My python code for calculating proc dps was erroneous. I spent some time this afternoon fiddling with it, but was unable to come up with a solution I was confident in. I retract my 0.75 DPS figure for a 132 second fight.

I do not retract my calculation for an 18 second fight, and I do not accept your calculations as correct.
Thank you for admitting you made a mistake in your calculations.

You can not accept it all you want, but the data supports my math thus far, and you don't have an alternative you are willing to provide.
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Old 02-19-2024, 01:00 PM
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I do not retract my calculation for an 18 second fight
I am going to hold you to this then.

Your 18 second fight calculation is here: https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=659

The expected DPS was 26.29 damage / 18 seconds = 1.46 DPS, and the calculations look correct when taking into account the minor rounding you were doing.

When looking at the same problem using a Normal Distribution:

At 1 PPM you have: 1 PPM x (60 seconds / 18 seconds) = 0.333 PPM when taking into account the fight does not last a full minute.

Scourge DoT Damage table over 18 seconds: [40, 64, 88, 112] = 304 damage / 4 damage numbers = 76 average damage x 0.333 PPM = 25.308 adjusted average damage / 18 seconds = 1.406 DPS

If we use your percent chances to proc the weapon a second time [0.097, 0.097, 0.097, 0.011] = 0.302 / 4 = 0.0755 x 40 DD Damage = 3 damage. If we add the 3 damage to the 76 damage we got above, we now get:

79 average damage x 0.333 PPM = 26.31 damage / 18 seconds = 1.46 DPS

Thank you for agreeing with me that the Normal Distribution method is good enough to approximate average DPS. My guess is you realized this too, which is why you refuse to post your math.
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Old 02-19-2024, 11:22 PM
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There is another way you could put this:

A. https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=659 - Bcbrown's 18 second fight calculation he is not retracting.

B. https://wiki.project1999.com/Scourge - DoT we are procing via https://wiki.project1999.com/Blight,...of_the_Scourge .

Binomial Distribution for 1 weapon proc:
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1. There are four possible damage values for an 18 second fight: [40, 64, 88, 112].

2. The average of the four possible damage values is 40 + 64 + 88 +112 = 304 / 4 = 76.

3. The chance for each damage value to occur is 0.0835 according to Bcbrown's post linked above.

4. 0.0835 x 4 damage values = 0.334.

5. 76 x 0.334 = 25.384 / 18 = 1.41 DPS.

Normal Distribution for 1 weapon proc:
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1. There are four possible damage values for an 18 second fight: [40, 64, 88, 112].

2. The average of the four possible damage values is 40 + 64 + 88 +112 = 304 / 4 = 76.

3. Assuming the player has 1 PPM due to their DEX value, you have 1 PPM x (60 seconds / 18 seconds) = 0.334 PPM

4. 76 x 0.334 = 25.384 / 18 = 1.41 DPS.

Conclusion:
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The results are exactly the same. Bcbrown was incorrect in his assumption that you cannot use a Normal Distribution for DoT weapon procs.
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Old 02-20-2024, 08:28 AM
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^total fuckin retard, although I mean DSM is doing pretty good for 3rd grade mathematics
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Old 02-20-2024, 10:57 AM
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^total fuckin retard, although I mean DSM is doing pretty good for 3rd grade mathematics
Nonsensical and delusional insults are irrelevant.

As a reminder, be wary when playing with Penish in game. He will purposely waste your time by grouping with you under false pretenses. He will record video of you in an attempt to make you look bad, and then leave the group abruptly. https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...7&postcount=23 - You can read this thread and see hard evidence of this.

He doesn't have the courage to post these videos, because he knows it will just show two things:
1. He shows that he doesn't know how the game works. He records video of people using normal strategies and assumes they are bad play.
2. He shows that he is indeed grouping with people under false pretenses. His true purpose is trying to record videos of people playing poorly.
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Old 02-20-2024, 12:02 PM
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ChatDSM activated.
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Old 02-20-2024, 12:20 PM
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ChatDSM activated.
You mean ChatPenish activated. Corrected that for you. Penish has been spamming threads with the same exact nonsense messages for a while now. There is no need for me to respond to his nonsense if he stops posting it.
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Old 02-20-2024, 02:38 PM
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Old 02-20-2024, 02:39 PM
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I am not sure why you get so triggered over facts about the game. It's ok to admit you are wrong sometimes. You don't have to keep pretending you know everything. You don't have to keep trolling to make yourself feel better.

You are clearly triggered to the point that you have to put "The sands of DSM's Vagina" as your location, and put a piece of game knowledge I did not know about in your signature. These are the only victories you can claim it seems, and neither are actual victories. They are meager trophies that embarrass yourself more than anybody else. I am all to happy to learn new things about the game and admit when I am wrong, unlike yourself.
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Old 02-25-2024, 10:25 AM
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why do you talk like an anime villain

They are meager trophies that embarrass yourself more than anybody else
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