Game Mechanics: Faction hits and sorting.

[nilbog]

This is something I've been wanting corrected for a while now.

Currently, when you kill an npc, the faction hits are sorted alpha ascending.

i.e.

You have slain Sergeant Miideanaer!
Your faction standing with ClawsofVeeshan got better.
Your faction standing with KingTormax got worse.
Your faction standing with Kromrif got worse.
Your faction standing with Kromzek got worse.

This is wrong. The way it should work is that an npc's primary faction is displayed first.

You have slain Sergeant Miideanaer!
Your faction standing with Kromzek got worse.
Your faction standing with ClawsofVeeshan got better.
Your faction standing with KingTormax got worse.
Your faction standing with Kromrif got worse.

So, this part is easily understood and will be corrected.

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How should the rest of the hits be sorted? From logs/screenshots, the following is how they should appear.

You have slain Sergeant Miideanaer!
Your faction standing with Kromzek got worse.
Your faction standing with Kromrif got worse.
Your faction standing with KingTormax got worse.
Your faction standing with ClawsofVeeshan got better.

You might think oh, well its sorted by the npcs faction hits from lowest negative to highest positive. But that's not the case. Here is a log from killing a random guard of Qeynos.

You have slain Guard Westyn!
Your faction standing with GuardsofQeynos got worse.
Your faction standing with AntoniusBayle got worse.
Your faction standing with CorruptQeynosGuards got better.
Your faction standing with CircleOfUnseenHands got better.
Your faction standing with MerchantsofQeynos got worse.

Not only is not alphabetical ascending past the npc's primary faction, but also the 'got better' hits are above one of the 'got worse'.

Anyone have further insight into the ordering scheme used past the first line?

[maximum]

From my live experience, it is sorted by: a) Native Faction, then b) Highest Faction Amount to Lowest Faction Amount. 30 > 20 > 10 > 1.

Will dig up some screenshots.

Also, I have been wanting to bring up something similar. It's cosmetic, but "You have gained experience" message should be below faction hit message. Currently, it is not (and never has been).

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by maximum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, I have been wanting to bring up something similar. It's cosmetic, but "You have gained experience" message should be below faction hit message. Currently, it is not (and never has been).

You are correct. Thanks

[maximum]

Screenshots with faction/exp messages:

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Note: some appear to be from late 2001 and even possibly 2002-2003.
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http://www.steveprutz.com/files/image/EQ000038.bmp

Notice that they all have the "spacing" that was patched, (e.g., Coalition Trade Folk Ill vs. CoalitionTradeFolkIll). I don't know when that patch came in.

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by maximum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

From my live experience, it is sorted by: a) Native Faction, then b) Highest Faction Hit to Lowest Faction Hit.

If this is the case, how can positives be higher than negative hits, or vice versa?

This one for example is worse, better, worse, better, better.

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[maximum]

Reworded above. I meant to say "amount of faction", largest to smallest.

Further clarifying: negative values are treated as positives when sorting

50
-40
30
20
-10
1

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by maximum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, I have been wanting to bring up something similar. It's cosmetic, but "You have gained experience" message should be below faction hit message. Currently, it is not (and never has been).

This part fixed by kanras, pending update.

[maximum]

Fixed?

[enr4ged]

I don't think so, the faction hits are still in alphabetical order.

[Nirgon]

You have certainly got an eye sir