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Old 10-21-2019, 11:35 AM
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Supply and demand has nothing to do with feelings and emotions. Fact is there are a small number of no-lifers who intend to roll on Green for no other purpose than to acquire as many manastones as possible. That's it. That's their entire goal. By simply removing the incentive of this small but extremely dedicated neckbeard contingent to poopsock the camp you reduce the demand for manastones. This makes the camp less of a shitshow, which it will certainly be even with the List. The result will be closer to a classic feel.

I don't see why anyone would object to this unless they planned to no-life the camp and attempt to hoard manastones. I can also see now why people are so staunchly defending their use of GINA, since audio cues will be basically required to afk camp the manastone and remain on the list.
Your view is incorrect at it's foundation. Tradeable or not tradable it will be a shit show with high pressure on the camps/area. It's just the realism of the situation. Supply and Demand have NOTHING to do with it. More than 50% of the people who want manastone (or guise) have no intent to sell it on blue. They want it because they want it. Even if they don't need it.

You bring up GINA, you are jaded or bias on the subject matter. Which you've made clearly obvious by this point.
ps. There will be an afk check that likely won't have any log text. So get that idea out of your mind right now.
The p99 staff are smart.

I say to you again,.. Set realistic goals for green. Stop trying to bend reality in favor of your real life situation.
If you can't dedicate the time that is going to be required don't try and ruin people's experience.
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Old 10-21-2019, 11:36 AM
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I always hoped project 1999 would be like diablo does it with ladder and non ladder. Once a ladder (or green) ends, your characters goes to non ladder (ie. Blue server)

That way blue will always live. My decision whether I would play on green really weighs heavily on whether they will merge or not. Guess I won’t know for a while.
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Old 10-21-2019, 11:50 AM
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Lol Baler accusing me of rule lawyering to benefit myself by making a proposal that would result in more people actually acquiring and using manastones rather than in a dozen pathetic neckbeards no-lifing the camp for months on end just to sell them on Blue. I think we can see where your bread is buttered, my friend.

Also I will be very surprised if the afk check does NOT involve log text. I'm not sure how that's even possible to code into the client otherwise. It's not like they will have GMs there 24/7 forcing people to sit/stand or move around. GINA will basically be a requirement for anyone who wants a guise or manastone. You know this which is why you freaked out when people proposed banning GINA on Green.
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Old 10-21-2019, 12:10 PM
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GINA will basically be a requirement for anyone who wants a guise or manastone. You know this which is why you freaked out when people proposed banning GINA on Green.
I see P99 is just as pants-on-head crazy as it was when I left a few years back.

Wow.

GINA is nothing. Someone with no programming experience could probably Google their way into compiling something similar. I'm not sure how it would even be possible to ban it. But doing so would be ridiculous.

Equally ridiculous would be suggesting that no one can pass a simple AFK check without a log parser.
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Old 10-21-2019, 12:21 PM
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I don't like making manastones nodrop - not more than making guises droppable.

IMO just merge Blue into Green. Maybe delete legacy items from Green beforehand, if this is such a problem.

But I think it's important to bring the actual characters back to Blue to keep Blue going. Otherwise it will become a desert after a cycle or two.
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Old 10-21-2019, 12:25 PM
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Just launch Luclin on Blue and allow Blue characters to transfer to Green at the end of Green’s timeline if they want to stay in Velious.
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Old 10-21-2019, 12:36 PM
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Equally ridiculous would be suggesting that no one can pass a simple AFK check without a log parser.
Sure, you can pass them without a log parser. If you're literally willing to stay up for three days straight staring at your computer screen the entire time. Meanwhile the GINA users will just set up their audio cue macros and sleep next to their computers/do other shit and be notified when it's time to pass an afk check.

Which of these people is more likely to finish the camp and get a manastone?

I will say it again: GINA use will be essentially required by anyone who wants a legacy item. There is no other way you're going to compete against the people who are using it unless you are also.
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Old 10-21-2019, 12:37 PM
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Just launch Luclin on Blue and allow Blue characters to transfer to Green at the end of Greenís timeline if they want to stay in Velious.
I would also be very happy with this, do a PoP locked server, and a Velious locked server.
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Old 10-21-2019, 12:41 PM
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Just launch Luclin on Blue and allow Blue characters to transfer to Green at the end of Greenís timeline if they want to stay in Velious.
Outside of the scope of the project. Will never happen!
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Old 10-21-2019, 12:53 PM
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I will say it again: GINA use will be essentially required by anyone who wants a legacy item. There is no other way you're going to compete against the people who are using it unless you are also.
So this afk check writes to the log? I can't imagine that being the case.
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