Green 2.0 advice

[Coridan]

Originally Posted by eqravenprince [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Go to a WoW forum and you'll find people complaining about WoW. No game is perfect. Wow is a themepark and every kid gets a trophy, some people like that. EQ is a world, it is beautiful, yet simple in design, complete sandbox with good people and bad people. The biggest gripe in EQ is endgame lacking enough content and the bottlenecks that occur when the server becomes top heavy. This could easily be fixed without turning it into WoW.

I think in our situation the only way to really fix it is custom content. Nilbog and Rogean have the data on server size and the experience to create some new raid zones/targets.

They could repurpose some PoP zones or something, or perhaps add some new targets, perhaps ones inspire by classic lore like Mayong Mistmoore, Megalodon, Big Bynn, maybe make some good aligned ones too, put some neat loot on the mayor of Rivervale and make all the guards come to help him.

We've done Green now. We've had the classic experience. Now let's improve on it while keeping within the spirit of it and not going to the moon.

Let's make Kerra (not Vah Shir) playable while we're at it.

[Raj]

Luclin was possibly greatest expansion ever - why? AAs appealed to cool & normals or people who hate having to cheese-zerg content to improve their fav chars w loot alone. Bazaar was a nice bonus to people wanting to save loads of time buying/selling. Global chat channels are amazing too. The only people who hate these are antisocial raiders that want to mostly despise and avoid talking to the 80%+ of the server whom isnt in the guild of the character they are currently playing.

Velious was the worst expansion ever - a few pretty zones nice for niche group experiences or loot but mostly raid content appealing to the most hopelessly addicted or pixel hungry players.

Sorry, P99 ends at the worst expansion of the classic timeline. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Ivory]

Originally Posted by Coridan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We've done Green now. We've had the classic experience. Now let's improve on it while keeping within the spirit of it and not going to the moon..

Nooo, we gotta restart a new server and classic experience again. Set it up so it repeats after the sleeper wakes up... a new server is born and the adventure begins anewww.

[aynn]

Originally Posted by Raj [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Luclin was possibly greatest expansion ever - why? AAs appealed to cool & normals or people who hate having to cheese-zerg content to improve their fav chars w loot alone. Bazaar was a nice bonus to people wanting to save loads of time buying/selling. Global chat channels are amazing too. The only people who hate these are antisocial raiders that want to mostly despise and avoid talking to the 80%+ of the server whom isnt in the guild of the character they are currently playing.

Velious was the worst expansion ever - a few pretty zones nice for niche group experiences or loot but mostly raid content appealing to the most hopelessly addicted or pixel hungry players.

Sorry, P99 ends at the worst expansion of the classic timeline. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree. There isn't enough content here to support the amount of players. That's why I'm playing on another private server that goes up to Planes of power. Having a blast with all the new content.

[MrSparkle001]

Originally Posted by eqravenprince [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Go to a WoW forum and you'll find people complaining about WoW. No game is perfect. Wow is a themepark and every kid gets a trophy, some people like that. EQ is a world, it is beautiful, yet simple in design, complete sandbox with good people and bad people. The biggest gripe in EQ is endgame lacking enough content and the bottlenecks that occur when the server becomes top heavy. This could easily be fixed without turning it into WoW.

Oh WoW certainly wasn't perfect but it did have instancing, I think automatic grouping after a while, queueing for dungeons after a while, battlegrounds for PvP. It did a lot of things right and opened up the genre to a lot more gamers.

Everquest required a lot of poopsocking, where you'd be tempted to call out of work for a day or two to camp the ancient cyclops or something, if it wasn't already camped in which case you were screwed for a while.

I think where Everquest really shined was the atmosphere of the various zones and the faction system. No other MMORPG has captured either of them. There's something about their clever use of colored fog, limited rendering distance, massive tree trunks with no leaves etc. that gives Everquest a very large and imposing atmosphere in certain zones.

[Coridan]

Originally Posted by Ivory [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nooo, we gotta restart a new server and classic experience again. Set it up so it repeats after the sleeper wakes up... a new server is born and the adventure begins anewww.

Oh for sure! I definitely say start Green over before implementing any custom content and add it in organically. Could also take the opportunity to reitemize some stuff and rebalance as well so no more /list. Maybe make all group ports require some kind of 50p stone reagent as a money sink.

With regards to Luclin I liked it too, but the Nexus and Bazaar were bad for the community nature of the game, and the Luclin models did not age as well as classic models.

[socialist]

My biggest memory from early Green is how rampant the AFKing in groups was. Seriously, I feel like there was on average two group members AFK at any given time. Leeching was so shameless at times that I had nights where I joined three different groups in a row where I had to leave all of them again because people were AFK 75% of the time.

[zillabunny]

Originally Posted by nilzark [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Very depressing. Thank you.

[zillabunny]

Originally Posted by Sizar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No Legacy Items. Period.

Total opposite direction

Everyone autogranted jboots at 25 mask at 30 manastone at 40 10x drop rate in plans when unark drops everyone gets a CoS. Super fun server

[Ghost of Starman]

Originally Posted by Coridan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

With regards to Luclin I liked it too, but the Nexus and Bazaar were bad for the community nature of the game, and the Luclin models did not age as well as classic models.

Oh yes, so much community is built sitting in EC for hours or watching a twitch stream of auction chat hoping that an item or spell in looking for for the last two weeks shows up, instead of, you know, playing the game.