Zone overpopulation

[Jauna]

Originally Posted by solidious77 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

your toons are migrated to a different server like blue or something.

While the idea of sending raid alts to another server like some kinda Logan's Run shtick just the idea of splitting populations is another bad idea.

But as much as I hate to bring up a forum favorite meme, coming late to the party while everyone is in their fancy crusty armor at level 1 or epic'ed by 46 is.. classic as fuck. The whole server should not get wiped or split every time someone finds out about p99

[Zuranthium]

Why is splitting populations a bad idea? Server splits are in fact classic and a green server would allow people to experience the game in a more classic state.

[Champion_Standing]

Wipe the server every week

[Jauna]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why is splitting populations a bad idea? Server splits are in fact classic and a green server would allow people to experience the game in a more classic state.

The classic server splits were made to ease Bertox and other extreme pop servers, not to wipe characters/progression.

And another thing is if EVERYONE starts out at the same time with plenty of prep time like an announcement will lead to overpopulated zones which is what started the thread in the first place. lol if you think people will move and not segment camps like we do now camps just because its a new server with even less resources available to them like DaP.. and other things.

[Zuranthium]

No characters get wiped though? At the end of Green server's cycle, they just get moved to Blue, where they can continue being played there if they want to. Yes people will gravitate around the same content but unless they re-code the game (which I think they should for new server, but they likely won't), that will always happen.

[Ezrick]

Obviously this person never zoned into Lower Guk on live shortly before Kunark was released and saw 113 people in the zone. P99 is barren compared to that.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No characters get wiped though? At the end of Green server's cycle, they just get moved to Blue, where they can continue being played there if they want to. Yes people will gravitate around the same content but unless they re-code the game (which I think they should for new server, but they likely won't), that will always happen.

This is not confirmed. The term "recycle server" was created by the players, with the assumption that characters on Green/Recycle would be folded back onto Blue at the end of each Green/Recycle cycle (2-3 years). However the staff has never confirmed that this will happen, and there are some serious logistical considerations to be resolved first.

For instance, Green will have several thousand players, and the odds are high that a thousand or more will have the same name as characters on Blue (because everyone wants to play Raistlin and Drizzt, /sigh). How exactly do you get a thousand players, all at once, to fix their names ... to new names which also don't conflict (on a completely different server, if they're somehow doing this while they're on Green)? Or alternatively, if you just move everyone and add an "X" at the end of their name, how do you let a thousand or more players change their names without hiring a million more GMs to accommodate all the extra humans needed (because you know that at an embarrassing percentage will try changing their name to something like "dickbag", so you need humans reviewing the changes)?

It's entirely possible that solving that problem (or some other problem that we haven't considered but the staff has) will be more work than the staff wants to put in, and as a result they won't "recycle" Green/Recycle at all. Or they'll find a solution and recycling will happen: we just don't know.

TLDR; "Recycling" Green is an idea the devs mentioned as a possibility once, but since then it's been mostly a player promoted idea. At this point no one except the staff themselves (and quite possibly not even them) knows for sure whether Green will actually recycle.

[Grizzler]

I will say I have been having good luck with /who [level] [level] however it doesn't work every time. Most of the times it doesn't work is when the people I am sending tells to either don't want to move or don't answer.

Also, don't do Phoenix DAOC, they butchered the game to get to pvp asap.

[Kika Maslyaka]

Originally Posted by Jauna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

While the idea of sending raid alts to another server like some kinda Logan's Run shtick just the idea of splitting populations is another bad idea.

But as much as I hate to bring up a forum favorite meme, coming late to the party while everyone is in their fancy crusty armor at level 1 or epic'ed by 46 is.. classic as fuck. The whole server should not get wiped or split every time someone finds out about p99

Significant flaw here.

The alt-twinking was nowhere as bad on LIVE as it is here on P99.
After 5 years on LIVE Golden Age of EQ was already over, and people went over to play WoW and EQ2. And 9 expansions were out by that time.
Why does this matter? It matters because if some person would play exact same hours back then as today he would put it mostly towards developing his main, and MOST players hardly ever had more than 1-2 mains, and there was ALWAYS ton of things to catch up specially with AAs out. Getting to 65 was easy. Getting 600+ AA to be accepted in PoP-3 guilds wasn't. (or 2,000+ AAs for elemental tier)
People were VERY busy maxing out their main char and not playing many alts. They simply didn't had the time. I mean sure there were bunch of lev 5-15 alts stuck in noob zones but that as far as they went. (mostly)

On P99 people hit end game YEARS ago. And competition for raids is INSANE (on LIVE this high competition for Kunark and Velios was only for 2 years, because then there was Luclin, and then PoP which introduced gazillion of new raids, and top guilds moved on, making room for lesser guilds to advance).
So what do top players do on P99 when no raids are up? They level up yet ANOTHER alt.

And the maxed out alts will continue to pile up because there is nothing else to do. Unless there is new content or server reset. (personally I am in favor of new content rather than reset)

[Nikkanu]

Zone overpopulation is something that’s going to be even more of an issue now that a big chunk of the servers population (AG, AM, BG+Core, and whatever is left of Tempest) aren’t going to be stuck socking it up in TOV 2-3 days every single week and instead will be farming and xping their army of alts. RIP XP Zones and loot camps.