Game Mechanics: Rog Sneak / Hide

[Calabee]

ISNT EVEN a IVU + Invis. Regular mobs (non bile golems) in HS that normally dont see thru either, just knocked me the fuck out after sneak hidding correctly...

[Lendel Deeppockets]

Hide is not IVU at the moment for Rogues. Everything in Unrest can see through it.

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[khanable]

Yo druids, i'mma let you finish, but rogues had the best nerf of all time

ALL TIME

[Furinex]

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Yo druids, i'mma let you finish, but rogues had the best nerf of all time

ALL TIME

As a Druid, I'll give this one to them, this shit sucks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Nirgon]

Best sustained dps in game with easiest epic's heart breaking story

[CanadianTSi]

[*]Kanras: Rogue hide will function the same as invis + IVU stacked.

This does not seem to the true...

[SamwiseRed]

can we just get a confirm this is either WAD or broke :P

[maximum]

Isn't there something about the undead in Unrest being special? Some can flee, like monsters.

Anyone tested New Rogue Hide in places like LGuk?

[runlvlzero]

Rogues do use sneak and hide together to move 'invisibly'... in fact better than invisibly in many cases. If you 'hide' without sneaking also, once you move you are unhidden. The order in which you hit sneak and hide are unimportant, except for when you are levitating in some manner. In that case you have to 'sneak' before 'hide' in order for hide to work. You can 'sneak' on the move, but must be still to start to 'hide'.

Many mobs will never see thru hide. Very very few mobs will notice you sneaking when you are behind them. Mobs that see invisible will usually have a 'chance' to see through sneak/hide. This chance is affected by difference in level between you and the mob, and also your skill rating, if not maxed once you get over level 39 or so (as a rogue).

This becomes more and more of a factor in higher levels. For the most part at lower levels something will either see you or not, and it will be consistent. Still, /con mobs to be safe. I know that some mobs that saw through my rogue's sneak/hide at level 50, don't now see through it when he's level 59. Also, some types of mobs can spawn able to see through sneak/hide, but do not always do so. Goos in City of Mist are one example.

Sneak/hide also renders you invisible to undead in most cases. /Con is your friend to find out when it doesnt.

You cannot start to sneak and hide underwater, but you can continue to sneak/hide from dry land into the water. Hurts in places like Kedge Keep.
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Creowatha
Scholar
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Mobs never had a "see invisible rogues" spell.
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boom /signed

pls fix asap

This is pretty well known in the EQ rogue community. It should never have been patched to be a simple Invis + ITU. Very unclassic fix from "shroud of stealth" mode.

[heartbrand]

Please move to resolved, it's working as intended