Pre-Upgrade ToV Items - Ikatiar/Eashan

[Skydash]

Here is a list of what these items should look like in our time line. Right now we have a mix of old and new.
Please see HERE to spot check more items.

Ikiatar the Venom Loots:
Ancient Wyvern Hide Tunic - No HP
Ancient Wyvern Hide Leggings - Big change
Ancient Wyvern Hide Sleeves - 15 AC
Ancient Wyvern Hide Boots - 9 AC
Ikatiar's Stinger - Ratio 11/21, no BS+, no STR/STA

Eashan of the Sky Loots:
Cloak of the Sky - 9 WIS, 12 AGI, 55 MANA
Ring of the Sky - 5 STA
Mask of the Sky - 9 AC, 70 HP
Claw of Lightning - 9/18, +10 SM, no Stats
Onyx Chain Sleeves - 25 AC, 3 All
Twisted Steel Guantlets - 25 AC
Twisted Steel Bastard Sword - 24/35
Bracelet of the Sky - Added later, see first comment on link.

Should I continue to post my findings? All the other ToV items were changed at some point, and the link at the top lets you find all the Pre-upgraded items.
ClassicQuested

[Ele]

Huge thread with item images

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...+carnage+sucks

Huge spreadsheet with various stages of upgrades:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...2c&usp=sharing



There is more than one round of upgrades during Velious:

June 2001 was a massive upgrade to NToV, ST, and Kael items.
October 2001 was a massive upgrade to 2-handed weapons on top of prior upgrades.

There are other items that have upgrades sprinkled throughout the timeline.

There are other items newly introduced to drop tables towards the end of Velious (or maybe around the October 2001 2-hander upgrades).

[jaybone]

So this is what it feels like to waste hours and hours of a day. nilbog already said it's not changing. If you don't like that there are other emu options.

[Pyrocat]

Where'd he say that?

Everything I've seen drop so far has been post-update.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by jaybone [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So this is what it feels like to waste hours and hours of a day. nilbog already said it's not changing. If you don't like that there are other emu options.

nilbog said the EXACT OPPOSITE, bring him the evidence and it will change.

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

they intentionally have everything post-revamp right now

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not exactly.

What needs to happen for this is a compilation of what items changed, when, and how.

It's not exactly a difficult task, but it is certainly time consuming. We opted to not hold back Velious release simply for timelining items.

That being said, I would like all the items to be corrected at some point, but due to the amount of research necessary, it should probably be a community effort.



This is one of the only items I changed, as an example to the other developers how the timeline changes function.

For example, Mrylokar's Dagger of Blood will exist until ~June2001, at which time it dynamically becomes Mrylokar's Dagger of Vengeance.

[Skydash]

Originally Posted by jaybone [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So this is what it feels like to waste hours and hours of a day. nilbog already said it's not changing. If you don't like that there are other emu options.

Wow, thanks for the support. How about posting a link to that quote?
And since when did trying to make a classic server more classic = go find another box?

[Buhbuh]

I think what he means is that for the difficulty of the encounters, it's just silly (albeit classic) to change the stats of items. Many people share that view and would prefer if no one did the research, because it just seems like trolling to a certain extent.

Buff timers, for instance, were a quality of life change made to the game that was probably long overdue, but since this was the first 3D MMORPG, a change like that was probably a patchwork thing worked out and made later as they saw how much ease of use it added to the interface. It is classic, though.

Simultaneously, we have Lord Vyemm who is quadding for 1250 while he only tripled for 1100 on live - a completely unclassic change to amp up difficulty.

We just sort of bounce between classic and unclassic changes, it seems. I hope they don't change the items, personally.

[minakto]

Yeah. Providing evidence has always changed how th game works...just like Blues duck casting

[Ele]

Originally Posted by minakto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah. Providing evidence has always changed how th game works...just like Blues duck casting

Nilbog already explained himself in those threads.

[jaybone]

But really who gives a fuck. nilbog has done a great job with this expansion so far..no need to shit it up with this stuff.