Can a Paladin start out as Non-KOS to Venril Sathir faction

[mycoolrausch]

not even dark elves stay non kos to vs, since the silly faction tanks doing literally anything in kunark.

[Danth]

Paladin factions are relatively similar to each other for the most part. I don't know of a paladin that starts out friendly to Ventil Sathir, and I've tried most of them over the years.

Danth

[Silverback]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Humans can be karana or E Marr too, but surely live is the antithesis of hate?

I don’t think the only problem is deity though. I imagine class is a huge negative modifier when it comes to paladin in over there.

Best bet is a ‘neutral’ race like erud or human and a more esoteric deity choice like ocean lord or lord of storms.

 

faction mods for race/class/god at Overthere Outpost

 318 - Venril Sathir
	-75	51	Human 
	-1000	52	Barbarian 
	-75	53	Erudite 
	-1000	54	Wood Elf 
	-1000	55	High Elf 
	-75	56	Dark Elf 
	-1000	57	Half Elf 
	-1000	58	Dwarf 
	-75	59	Troll 
	-75	60	Ogre 
	-1000	61	Halfling 
	-75	62	Gnome 
	-1000	178	Iksar 
	-1000	180	Vah Shir 
	-1000	202	Brell Serilis 
	-1000	204	Erollisi Marr 
	-5	205	Fizzlethorp 
	-1000	207	Karana 
	-1000	208	Mithaniel Marr 
	-1000	209	Prexus 
	-1000	210	Quellious 
	-1000	212	Rodcet Nife 
	-5	213	Solusek Ro 
	-1000	214	Tribunal 
	-1000	215	Tunare 
	-1000	216	Veeshan 
	-75	661	Guktan 
	-75	1106	Drakkin

Thanks to Tadkins

https://pastebin.com/raw/EXkdMT1W

Yeah looks like only Humans/Erudites by race, but all dieties would be KOS either way. thanks for that info

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Silverback [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah looks like only Humans/Erudites by race, but all dieties would be KOS either way. thanks for that info

For a variety of reasons don’t take those numbers as gospel for how things will be on this emu. They’re usually a good rough guide but often not spot on.

[Philistine]

Originally Posted by Silverback [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anyone know of Race/Deity combo that allows a Paladin to start out dubious or better to Venril Sathir (Kunark Outpost etc)?

Edit: whoops! Missed the "start out" part.. was wondering why the responses didn't mention vp lol

[Goldknyght]

Originally Posted by Silverback [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anyone know of Race/Deity combo that allows a Paladin to start out dubious or better to Venril Sathir (Kunark Outpost etc)?

dont be a b^^^^ kill those dang guard when u use the hammer!

[tadkins]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks to Tadkins

https://pastebin.com/raw/EXkdMT1W

I appreciate the shout-out. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Disclaimer though, the faction data is for Live. Not all of it will match up with P99, there are some disparities between the two.

Couple of good examples are NeriakTrolls (should be neutral start to literally everyone) and Storm Guard (should be KoS initially to Rallos Zek worshippers). Would be kinda cool to see P99 just take that data and apply it here one day.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by tadkins [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I appreciate the shout-out. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Disclaimer though, the faction data is for Live. Not all of it will match up with P99, there are some disparities between the two.

Couple of good examples are NeriakTrolls (should be neutral start to literally everyone) and Storm Guard (should be KoS initially to Rallos Zek worshippers). Would be kinda cool to see P99 just take that data and apply it here one day.

No worries, thank you for clearing up those discrepancies.

Another peculiarity of p1999 is your base faction standings aren't calculated live, they are calculated at character creation and then modified by your actions. Or at least that is my understanding of it.

If I understand right, the result of this is when race/class/deity mods on p99 get corrected, these corrections only really apply to toons that haven't be rolled yet. Existing toon's standings don't get fixed.

[tadkins]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No worries, thank you for clearing up those discrepancies.

Another peculiarity of p1999 is your base faction standings aren't calculated live, they are calculated at character creation and then modified by your actions. Or at least that is my understanding of it.

If I understand right, the result of this is when race/class/deity mods on p99 get corrected, these corrections only really apply to toons that haven't be rolled yet. Existing toon's standings don't get fixed.

Yep correct. I think it'd be cool to have a temporary way for folks to get some of these factions fixed when/if they do make the changes. Like have a troll NPC in Neriak they can hail to return NeriakTrolls to indifferent up for a month or so.

My agnostic human mage should be able to hang out in all of Neriak FQ but alas he cannot here. xD

I know it's kind of a silly thing to focus on but as someone who's faction-obsessed it's something I can't help but notice. I posted about it a while ago and hope it does get addressed one day.
https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=407124

[Jimjam]

NFQ is very unclassic. In the arena there is xp loss and guards will aggro pvping players. Not classic at all.