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[Horza]

White House: John Kelly was unequipped to handle Trump’s 'genius.'

The White House shot back on Saturday after former chief of staff John Kelly said he had warned President Trump that hiring a “yes man” to replace him would likely lead to impeachment. White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham disputed Kelly’s claim. “I worked with John Kelly, and he was totally unequipped to handle the genius of our great President,” Grisham told CNN.

[fortior]

Originally Posted by Rader [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is about the dumbest comment I have seen in a while, and that is saying a lot

what do you think the 'left-wing' in 'left-wing ideology' means

[wildstar]

Originally Posted by Rader [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is about the dumbest comment I have seen in a while, and that is saying a lot

Democrat and lefty are interchangeable for sure. I don't really understand what the op was talking about.

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Liberalism is a right-wing ideology

I don't think that would be a dumb comment. I am not alone in this belief either. People write articles differentiating between lefties and liberals or classical liberals. This is why people try to say "I am a classical liberal" because a lot of people use liberal as a derogatory term against lefties.

[Horza]

Originally Posted by wildstar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Democrat and lefty are interchangeable for sure. I don't really understand what the op was talking about.

I don't think that would be a dumb comment. I am not alone in this belief either. People write articles differentiating between lefties and liberals or classical liberals. This is why people try to say "I am a classical liberal" because a lot of people use liberal as a derogatory term against lefties.

Just because some people use liberal as a derogatory term for anyone who disagrees with them doesn't mean that the definition of the word simply vanishes in a cloud of Fox News-induced ignorance.

[Horza]

The Difference Between Liberalism and Leftism

The core divergence in these worldviews is in their beliefs about the nature of contemporary political and economic institutions. The difference here is not “how quickly these institutions should change,” but whether changes to them should be fundamental structural changes or not. The leftist sees capitalism as a horror, and believes that so long as money and profit rule the earth, human beings will be made miserable and will destroy themselves. The liberal does not actually believe this. Rather, the liberal believes that while there are problems with capitalism, it can be salvaged if given a few tweaks here and there.

Liberals believe that the economic and political system is a machine that has broken down and needs fixing. Leftists believe that the machine is not “broken.” Rather, it is working perfectly well; the problem is that it is a machine designed to chew up human lives.

[wildstar]

Originally Posted by Horza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just because some people use liberal as a derogatory term for anyone who disagrees with them doesn't mean that the definition of the word simply vanishes in a cloud of Fox News-induced ignorance.

Apart from a 2-3 talking heads on Fox most people on the right look at fox as cnn-lite.

As for your second post honestly I view all people on the left as loving socialism and hating free speech in general. The people who hate free speech are a dime a dozen. State Democrat Dan Hunt recently introduced a bill that makes using the word 'bitch' punishable with 6 months of jail time. In New York they ban saying 'illegal alien' in a 'hateful' way with up to 250k in fines. In California awhile back didn't they make it punishable by law for practitioners to not use a patients preferred pronouns? Free speech isn't there so you can say how great and cute puppies are. It's there so you can say whatever unfiltered offending thing you want without being punished by the government. Unfortunately LEFTISTS are doing what they do best, and they're using their seat as Democrats to attack the constitution and put in crazy laws that make zero sense.

Do you agree that at least the laws being put in place by these democrats, are in fact leftists?

[Zeboim]

lol @ Dems being Leftists

They're at best Center Right. They'd be tossed out on their ears from the Leftist parties of most of Europe. Only Sanders/AOC actually qualify as really Left, and they're lukewarm in the grand scheme at best.

[Kaveh]

Originally Posted by Zeboim [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol @ Dems being Leftists

They're at best Center Right. They'd be tossed out on their ears from the Leftist parties of most of Europe. Only Sanders/AOC actually qualify as really Left, and they're lukewarm in the grand scheme at best.

Sanders, yes. AOC looks 42 and acts 14

[Kaveh]

Sanders is the only truly left of center candidate who can get my vote. I’m a bellwether for emotional, likeability based American voting, so heed my words Warren lovers

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by Kaveh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sanders is the only truly left of center candidate who can get my vote. I’m a bellwether for emotional, likeability based American voting, so heed my words Warren lovers

If we really run through every kind of malenority before putting in a chica, all the pussy is gonna go on strike.

We know she's unlikeable. Do your duty.