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Old 01-16-2022, 02:15 AM
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So yeah.

This is crazy their getting around the filibuster.

Schumer believes he’s found a loophole in the Congressional Budget Act of 1974, which would open the door to a third reconciliation bill to the Infrastructure bill (if not more).

Basically when the house and the senate pass different versions of the same bill the bill must go through a reconciliation process in order for the chambers to approve the exact same text of that bill.

So, when the chambers disagree on the exact same text of a bill they can send it back to each other until a final text is agreed upon. Once this passing back and forth happens THREE times; that's it, that's the final bill and it can not be filibustered in the senate.

So the plan is to have democrats in the house take a bill that has already under taken this messaging process 3 times; change the bill, twist the wording of it.

With the republicans in the senate not able to filibuster the bill will go to the floor for debate and for amendments to be added.

Since democrats signaled early in the year they were interested in again allowing earmarks in the bills to tempt republicans (previous in 2006 there was an agreement to curb such earmarks because it was getting out of hand) will this open the door to combat the two republicans in the senate in sheep's clothing. Can two other republicans be tempted to go along with perhaps allowing pieces or more of The Freedom to Vote: John R. Lewis Act to pass. (Note I know Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., is one of the bill’s co-sponsor but I think it is just a front; he is on the pays slip of the republican supporting groups)

But... This could be huge. I am interested to see how far this can go. But I also understand the democrats are poised to lose the house. Pretty much no matter how open they make voting. Effectively ending this process.
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Old 01-16-2022, 03:12 AM
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if we had sex robots and stuff life would be much simpler
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Old 01-16-2022, 08:33 AM
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Whats in the bill free healthcare and paid college for illegal immigrants that vote Democrat and fuck you Americans?
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Old 01-16-2022, 01:14 PM
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Voting Rights bill is good, mostly.

Second infrastructure bill is bad even though it contains a couple of things we really need to do something about -- daycare subsidies for one thing.
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Old 01-16-2022, 01:18 PM
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Try chasing this lady into a bathroom to get your way.
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Old 01-16-2022, 01:47 PM
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Filibuster is good. It means your bill has to not suck to pass. It's a fundamental part of checks and balances.
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Old 01-16-2022, 01:47 PM
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Whats in the bill free healthcare and paid college for illegal immigrants that vote Democrat and fuck you Americans?
I certainly hope so, I'm pretty tired of driving the buses around every election season
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Old 01-16-2022, 01:55 PM
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Voting rights is mostly good? Fuck off with this bullshit.

Show an ID to vote, so simple but you demons have such a whacked grip on reality you think it's good to allow an open voting system. Shouldn't be surprised that the party that is pro baby killing is waving this flag. Complete demons.
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Old 01-16-2022, 02:08 PM
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oh people are taking the thread seriously
do you not know how the electoral collage works? the popular vote (you) does not mean shit
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Old 01-16-2022, 02:09 PM
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The electoral college is an evil racist colonialist relic when dems lose elections and a sacred american tradition that secures our democracy or some shit when they win elections
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