Thank you sirken

[America]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not going to drudge shit up, or go into any specific detail or drop any names. For now we'll leave it at if you know, you know. If you don't, you won't.

Someone here is judging Sirken for a similar action that he himself had previously presided over. It wasn't exactly as clean cut as this, and it was a bit more complicated. But he gave himself a second chance and some server policies were changed in response to it. Changes were made behind closed doors. We all moved on. We didn't need a public thread acknowledging it or anyone getting "exposed".

But now there's no second chance for Sirken. That's where people are having problems with this.

You might be able to argue "Well that was ancient history, nearly 10 years ago. How can you compare these two incidences". But its a pretty weak argument using time elapsed.

The double standard here is where most of us have a problem with Sirken's alleged punishment (permanent removal from staff). It's coming across as too knee-jerky considering we've survived similar stuff here when Blue first launched and we had GM events and "random rolls" and prizes distributed for event loot.

All things considered, a lot of us feel Sirken is more valuable than the treatment he's getting. This should have been a peanut incident and dismissed like a couple other incidents that happened during the early blue days. But it wasn't. Why is this incident any different? You have to ask at this point if Sirken is receiving fair treatment.

heehehe

[Mudson]

ll things considered, a lot of us feel Sirken is more valuable than the treatment he's getting.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by Kaight [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You’re entitled to nothing.

This is a concept utterly foreign to p99 raiders, I'm afraid you're wasting your keystrokes here.

[Mead]

Originally Posted by kaev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is a concept utterly foreign to p99 raiders, I'm afraid you're wasting your keystrokes here.

I’m not sure anyone cares about anyone else’s opinion on here

[kaev]

Originally Posted by Mead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I’m not sure anyone cares about anyone else’s opinion on here

oh shit, you cracked the code!

[Swish2]

Originally Posted by Mead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I’m not sure anyone cares about anyone else’s opinion on here

so why post like we think people do?

[Swish2]

Originally Posted by Irulan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Derubal ... he was a nice guy. Presided over one of red99s peak seasons. Ya he probably cheated n broke the rules, but he did it out of a desire to better red99

I don't think anyone on the staff cared about red more than Derupal. Even put that thread in server chat that more people should move across and give it a try - with predictably mixed responses.

Was a shame when he tried to get recently disbanded Nilly and Azrael to work together in Dagnor's vs a spawned Cazic Thule... pvp happened, and Lite refused to work with other guilds. Deru flipped a table and cancelled the whole thing - watched it on Twitch [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Might actually be red's last "big effort put in" event.

[shuklak]

Originally Posted by Kaight [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How many times does it have to be said? This is a free server that requires nothing to play. You don’t pay them. They don’t pay you to do work for them. You’re entitled to nothing.

Being entitled to nothing justifies being treated poorly?

[Swish2]

Originally Posted by shuklak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Being entitled to nothing justifies being treated poorly?

The mads can always start their own server.

[JayDee]

Originally Posted by shuklak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Being entitled to nothing justifies being treated poorly?

I am going to offer someone a refreshing cold beverage with just a drop of piss in it. Then I'll tell them not to be upset when they find out cause hey it was free and you enjoyed it.