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The USA will buy the UK to make them great again 15 14.02%
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The UK will do just fine, will claim back USA, India, Australia and all other ex colonies 23 21.50%
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Old 10-04-2019, 12:25 PM
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Boris Johnson will seek Brexit delay if no deal is reached, court documents say.

Johnson previously said he would rather be "dead in a ditch" than seek another Brexit delay, but the documents suggest that he has accepted the terms of the Benn Act. It comes after the Prime Minister publicly said the government "will obey the law, and will come out by October 31," an assertion that fueled speculation he may have found a loophole in the legislation.
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Old 10-04-2019, 12:55 PM
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Boris Johnson will seek Brexit delay if no deal is reached, court documents say.

Johnson previously said he would rather be "dead in a ditch" than seek another Brexit delay, but the documents suggest that he has accepted the terms of the Benn Act. It comes after the Prime Minister publicly said the government "will obey the law, and will come out by October 31," an assertion that fueled speculation he may have found a loophole in the legislation.
The brits cuck out again. Color me surprised.

Expecting Brexit is like expecting the trump impeachment. You’re delusional if you think it’s ever think it’s going to happen.
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Old 10-04-2019, 12:57 PM
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No we haven't acted illegally - you suggested we should favour small, independent, local fishing fleets over the big corporate trawlers. That is what is illegal under EU law, and would remain illegal as long as we're in the Single Market.
I'm not convinced large companies buying up all the quotas from local fishermen is forced by the eu:

"Such accumulations run directly contrary to the principles laid down by the common fisheries policy (CPF). Article 17 of the CFP bans “dominant positions” and calls on member states to allocate their fish quotas according, among other things, to “the impact of fishing on the environment” and “the contribution to the local economy”."

Sounds like UK government failing its duty to local economies as they'd rather support and curry favour with larger commercials.
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Old 10-04-2019, 01:06 PM
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The brits cuck out again. Color me surprised.

Expecting Brexit is like expecting the trump impeachment. You’re delusional if you think it’s ever think it’s going to happen.
Impeachment is definitely happening, removal from office really depends on how damning the evidence against Trump is and how many senators are willing to risk their chances at re-election for President 8chan.
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Old 10-04-2019, 02:08 PM
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I'm not convinced large companies buying up all the quotas from local fishermen is forced by the eu:

"Such accumulations run directly contrary to the principles laid down by the common fisheries policy (CPF). Article 17 of the CFP bans “dominant positions” and calls on member states to allocate their fish quotas according, among other things, to “the impact of fishing on the environment” and “the contribution to the local economy”."

Sounds like UK government failing its duty to local economies as they'd rather support and curry favour with larger commercials.
They are not able to stop trawlers like this fishing UK waters because there are no UK waters in the EU.

Oh yeah, the CFP has been fantastic for the impact of fishing on the environment hasn't it? In 1960, before the CFP, the size of the UK catch from the North Sea was 340k metric tons while Denmark's was 285k metric tons. In 1980, 10 years of CFP management, the UK catch was up to 390k metric tones, while Denmark's was 1,800k metric tons. Overfishing happened because of EU mismanagement and until we take control back of our waters it will always be the case.
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Old 10-04-2019, 02:35 PM
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Impeachment is definitely happening, removal from office really depends on how damning the evidence against Trump is and how many senators are willing to risk their chances at re-election for President 8chan.
Hillary is definitely going to win.
The economy is definitely going to be destroyed under Trump.
Mueller definitely has him dead to rights.
He will definitely be impeached.
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Old 10-04-2019, 02:44 PM
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They are not able to stop trawlers like this fishing UK waters because there are no UK waters in the EU.

Oh yeah, the CFP has been fantastic for the impact of fishing on the environment hasn't it? In 1960, before the CFP, the size of the UK catch from the North Sea was 340k metric tons while Denmark's was 285k metric tons. In 1980, 10 years of CFP management, the UK catch was up to 390k metric tones, while Denmark's was 1,800k metric tons. Overfishing happened because of EU mismanagement and until we take control back of our waters it will always be the case.
The foreign trawlers overfishing and exceeding their quotas is a separate issue to our own government ignoring our local fishermen in favour of domestic super companies; There already are tools to deal with these issues, yet they aren't dealt with, so I don't expect this issues will be properly addressed post Brexit either.
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Old 10-04-2019, 02:48 PM
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They are not able to stop trawlers like this fishing UK waters because there are no UK waters in the EU.

Oh yeah, the CFP has been fantastic for the impact of fishing on the environment hasn't it? In 1960, before the CFP, the size of the UK catch from the North Sea was 340k metric tons while Denmark's was 285k metric tons. In 1980, 10 years of CFP management, the UK catch was up to 390k metric tones, while Denmark's was 1,800k metric tons. Overfishing happened because of EU mismanagement and until we take control back of our waters it will always be the case.
Why didn't the UK fish more?
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Old 10-04-2019, 02:52 PM
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Why didn't the UK fish more?
The EU's waters are pooled (along with some non-EU countries). There are quotas of how much of each type of fish that can be taken. Every country is given a share. Individual governments are then responsible for distributing their share of the quota in a way that promotes competition without harming local economies.

The UK handed most of their quota to international companies, and I believe some smaller fishermen sold the rights to their quotas to others. Ergo, UK doesn't fish as much as it could, and blames the EU for that.

This is the Cronyism of the Conservative Party; selling the nations wealth to their 'friends' that I object to (though I am now told there is a higher tier of elites who are basically doing the same thing with Europe as a whole...).


That's my perception, I'd love to hear Thrombosis's.
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Old 10-04-2019, 02:52 PM
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Hillary is definitely going to win.
The economy is definitely going to be destroyed under Trump.
Mueller definitely has him dead to rights.
He will definitely be impeached.
What situation do you think would cause the House to vote no? Like... Do you understand how the process works?
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