Monk - Trance Stick vs Knuckle Dusters

[CptnCanuck]

New to the monk class and thought I post for some advice.

I am assuming even though the Knuckle Dusters are a higher delay that they beat out the Trance Sticks due to having double the damage.

I am also assuming this still holds true when you get to level 35 and the Trance Stick starts proccing, though I could be wrong in that assumption.

I was wondering if I did get a pair of Knuckle Dusters, would it still be worth having Trance Sticks on me for when fighting casters for the quicker delay(weapon pushback) and the pushback from the proc after 35?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Pushback no longer works on caster mobs to interrupt spells sadly. That was changed a while ago.

I am not a monk expert, but I believe you should do trance stick in main hand and dusters in offhand. In offhand ratio is more important, in main hand low delay is usually preferred due to the main hand getting a damage bonus. But it does depend on the ratio of the weapon and your level. Trance stick ratio is pretty low.

[Ripqozko]

I'll wait on samoht to tell me how DSM is wrong

[Samoht]

Depends on your level. The faster ratio on Master Wu's Trance Stick doesn't really swing in your favor until your damage bonus is above 5, so Knuckle Dusters has better white DPS before level 43.

The proc on using Wu's mainhand will add about 2.8 DPS beginning at level 35 assuming a proc rate of 2 per minute.

35-40 is a little gray to me on which would be better, but before 35 it's the KD, and it's Wu's after 40 when considering the proc.

Offhand has no damage bonus and proc rate of 1 per minute, so use KD secondary over Wu's at all levels until level 58/59 depending on race and then bare fist would be better. If you have epic, bare fists are always better than either weapon in either slot after you can equip it at level 46.

Main Hand Ratio = (Dam + Bonus) / Delay
Damage Bonus = (Level - 25) / 3 round down

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[Croco]

2 per minute proc rate is with 255 dex, no way he's hitting that, he's getting 1 ppm if he's lucky

[CptnCanuck]

Thanks everyone for your responses.

That chart is very helpful Samoht! Since my Iksar monk is only lvl 10 looks like I will just look to acquire 2 Knuckle Dusters for the foreseeable future.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Yes, great post Samoht! I appreciate the damage bonus chart.

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I'll wait on samoht to tell me how DSM is wrong

I lol'ed.

[greenspectre]

Originally Posted by CptnCanuck [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks everyone for your responses.

That chart is very helpful Samoht! Since my Iksar monk is only lvl 10 looks like I will just look to acquire 2 Knuckle Dusters for the foreseeable future.

FWIW, Jade Mace might be worth looking into. It's like a KD for your mainhand that milks the damage bonus better.

Also, I'm unsure, but I think a Wu's Quivering is gonna be better DPS than twin Knuckle Dusters after 20 for quite a while. Samoht seems like he's good at crunching the numbers, though, so I bet he could verify.

[Sizar]

Originally Posted by greenspectre [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wu's Quivering is gonna be better DPS than twin Knuckle Dusters after 20 for quite a while.

Very true, Wu's is super cheap and very good once you hit level 20

[Toxigen]

Just get an Imbued Fighters Staff and forget about the numbers.