GM/coder jeremy from RoZ

[Disease]

Originally Posted by Jack N [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hi Hatelore - I hope you're surrounded by concrete so that you're not getting too cold this winter. I'd be happy to address these points and any others you may have.



I wanted to watch your CT engage. When CT popped and the zone didn't repop with him, I thought something was broken. On impulse I repopped the zone thinking it would set things right. It was a mistake - I didn't consider things like discs and manapool. I had forgotten that we'd adjusted the repop script to be delayed from ages ago when we had stability problems in fearplane. I apologized for the mistake, rezzed you guys up, restored discs and HTs and LoHs, and put you in a situation as close as I could to what it was when I messed it up. I prohibited your competitors from zoning in before the kill, and after being convinced the circumstances merited it, I even agreed to do a loot transfer so you guys could sort out the loot without being under pressure from the possibility of getting ninjaed.

Why do you dummies think I did it maliciously? I could easily have just said deal with it and not spent 40 minutes correcting the mistake. I could have not admitted that I screwed up and could have not apologized. You guys always perceive this bias when there is none.



Skeeter decided to have an event on Thanksgiving and I agreed to help him. I for one was unable to be with my family and friends that day so I thought it would be cool to have something for people who may be in the same situation. We had a large spectral turkey with 2.5 million HP that every 10% health would spawn a smaller turkey. The smaller turkeys dropped mostly illusion items but had a small chance to drop some stuff from Trakanon, VS, etc. It roamed around North Karana and didn't attack. We thought this would encourage some good PVP and would give both of our two main guilds (and maybe some loot snipers) a chance to get some cool stuff. Well the dice rolled right and a few premium Kunark items dropped. One guild was first on the scene but got routed by a smaller force. Despite having 2-3x the numbers of players online throughout the entire 2.5 hours it took to kill the spectral turkey, this first guild refused to even come contest. When I asked their leadership why they didn't even try, they claimed that experience was more important.

I believe a lot of the complaining was due to the fact that these people didn't get any loot from it (as evidenced by the past when we had events with real prizes and they got over their inhibitions very quickly when they won the bulk of them), but in spite of this, we saw there were legitimate grievances. We made it server policy going forward that only cosmetic items would be awarded at events and that all such events would be announced at least 24 hours in advance. This happened 3 months ago and hasn't been an issue since, but certain people repeatedly bring it up and complain that this event lost them the server.



This happened prior to Turkey Day (a day that shall live in infamy). That's right, Hatelore - we thought it would be cool to have some real prizes at our first couple PVP events that used the custom PVP match system I spent a couple weeks developing. We thought that having a decent prize like a shot at a Trak tooth would encourage the upcoming guild to want to get some, and would encourage you guys to want to defend. Oh the mercy!! This happened four months ago, and as previously mentioned, our policy has since shifted on an official level. At our subsequent PVP tournaments (which have been a lot of fun and a success imo), the best prize you can win is a guise, and we don't give them out at every event. This hasn't been an issue for months, yet you keep talking about it like it's indicative of some corrupt conspiracy aimed at destroying your guild. Did you ever think maybe you have too many warmbodies and that the competition is really hungry?



Thanks for your kind words, buddy. Saying stuff like this nearly every day in our Discord completely unprovoked is why you are the only person I have ever banned. Maybe once you learn how to provide your input without being personally insulting we will welcome you back. I'm not holding my breath, though.

We're doing a lot of great things on RoZ to provide a fun place to PVP. We're not perfect and we're going to make some mistakes along the way, but at least when we do we man up to it and own it and apologize. We pride ourselves on listening to the community and responding. We're just going to keep plugging away at creating a world-class PVP server, and if you want to mount up and come battle, you are most certainly welcome.

This is why red99 needs a wipe.

Why wouldnt you let them finish CT and then if you found a mistake, just take back the loot?

Waiting for the mob to hit 12% and then spawn the zone on them LOL?

[Jack N]

It was a matter of a few seconds in between realizing the zone didn't pop and them almost killing it. I should have just let it go and dealt with it later, but I didn't really have time to process things fully. I learned something from the experience and always check myself before doing anything of that nature to avoid issues like this. I bent over backwards to make things right afterwards. Sorry guys, it was a mistake, but it's time to get over it.

[hatelore]

Good god, not reading that fucking Encyclopedia Pedophilia.

[Madbad]

Originally Posted by hatelore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Good god, not reading that fucking Encyclopedia Pedophilia.

dude, lol

[kotton05]

Originally Posted by hatelore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Good god, not reading that fucking Encyclopedia Pedophilia.

[Samaritan]

And the fact that all these actions just happened to consistently help one guild over the other is a TOTAL COINCIDENCE.

GMs made RoZ a shitbox.

[HippoNipple]

Lol jeremy trying to spin the turkey day event where he handed out 3 months of raid loot including mage/wiz epics. As far as being biased because not everyone on the server was handed epics that day also untrue. Even the people that won the items in the PvP events thought it was really dumb but were they just not going to participate and give all the items to the other guild? I mean you were giving out items from the most contested mob at the time to every member of every team placing 1-3 when there were only 4 teams.

[Jack N]

You guys always say "3 months of raid loot" but I dispute your figures. There were a few nice armor pieces and epic pieces - the 3 month figure was pulled our of your ass.

Yes we had good prizes at the first two PVP events then stopped doing it. How long before you get over it? We listened to your grievances and adjusted our policy. It hasn't been an issue for 3 months.

What you want to bet that when we're in PoP in a year and a half some people are still bitching about Turkey Day?

[Jack N]

Originally Posted by Samaritan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And the fact that all these actions just happened to consistently help one guild over the other is a TOTAL COINCIDENCE.

GMs made RoZ a shitbox.

When we had the Thanksgiving event, we assumed Catalyst would get 90-100% of the loot. They bitched out and lost out.

The guild with a fleeting stranglehold on the server always fears change, but we've made a number of changes that have benefited Catalyst directly (rez box nerf, for instance).

We make changes because we think they're the right thing to do - not because it helps one guild or another.

Mad Lads

[bigjeff100]

Here's what im seeing-

-GM says yucky things about under agers
-Mentally unstable forum pvp players call him out
-GM provides legit sounding explanations for everything PVP'ers are upset about (from the point of view of, me)
-Mentally unstable forum pvp players rally together for a full on assault
-Mentally unstable forum pvp players try to play the good guy in a situation where everybody is gross.

Conclusion- Gross thread, full of gross people. Ban players and lock thread. Move to resolved.