Insanity :10 hours per manastone, there's like 12 people on the list now

[Swish]

Originally Posted by tg822 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The most classic thing actually is to remove them once it becomes obvious how problematic they are, ie now.

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Leave them in, the strong will endure.

[Fammaden]

Originally Posted by Zaes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Probably the best answer but not #classic

Neither is the AE mob limit, or rooted ToV dragons. But things like this are done when the player behavior is creating a far less classic experience than the changes designed to address the problem behaviors.

I highly doubt there were fifty hour wait lists for the EE in LGuK on week three of vanilla EQ. Player made wait lists certainly never required a manual afk check every five to fifteen minutes, you just got a tell when it was your turn to join camp and you had to be in the XP group regardless.

In retrospect, IMO, removing the items that artificially create this insane reaction from the players was the lesser of all evils. I've felt this way, and have mentioned so a few times, basically since green was officially announced.

I do however understand why the decision would feel bad and why they highly preferred to keep these things as part of the timeline. If nothing else it would have created slippery slope feelings like "then why is this hybrid penalty bullshit still in game" for example. But sometimes you just have to draw a line, and its been done due to player behavior in P99 before.

[jacob54311]

Originally Posted by tg822 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The most classic thing actually is to remove them once it becomes obvious how problematic they are, ie now.

By that line of reasoning, they'd also have to get rid of other things that were taken out once they realized they were really bad ideas like the heavy xp penalty on hybrids and making pet casters research all their pet spells after level 20.

You might be on to something.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by jacob54311 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

By that line of reasoning, they'd also have to get rid of other things that were taken out once they realized they were really bad ideas like the heavy xp penalty on hybrids and making pet casters research all their pet spells after level 20.

You might be on to something.

It'd literally shred the game of what it was in 1999.

If you want EQ Lite, go and say hi to Daybreak. They could use the extra players.

Or go back to blue <3

[MasterCS]

Originally Posted by Elrood [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, preventing that person from dying will have disastrous consequences.

So the responsibility falls on the server hosts to protect people from themselves? Get a grip. If someone is willing to risk their health over something so meaninglessness, they have bigger issues. Also, where do you people get the time to even camp this for more than a few hours? Are all of you on vacation (tic)?

[skipdog]

Originally Posted by MasterCS [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, where do you people get the time to even camp this for more than a few hours? Are all of you on vacation (tic)?

Welfare and Disability would be your answers.

[Fammaden]

Originally Posted by MasterCS [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So the responsibility falls on the server hosts to protect people from themselves? Get a grip. If someone is willing to risk their health over something so meaninglessness, they have bigger issues. Also, where do you people get the time to even camp this for more than a few hours? Are all of you on vacation (tic)?

Again, for the good of the server and everyone's ensured continuing play experience I don't want P99 to end up in the news, or on the wrong end of a frivolous lawsuit, because some beard afk checked himself into severe dehydration or a manic sleep deprivation episode.

Not to say that extreme neckbearding is the devs' fault, but certain realities have to be considered here. This shit is not normal, even by EQ standards, and the BEST case scenario is the account sharing behavior which itself is no real improvement on the community experience for the server.

[DMN]

I have an idea that just might work with minimal adjustment to the list system:

You go and get on the /list but instead of being ordered in how you arrived, the "winner" of the stone will be RANDOMLY chosen. 'Still rewards neckbeards for longer camp times, and normies have at least a chance to happen upon one.


Change the lockout to a month , too.

[ZiggyTheMuss]

Originally Posted by skipdog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just imagine how hard people would be crying and whining without the list system. There'd be a name and shame thread every other day for the 'monsters' who held the camp without giving it up.

Mmhmmm

Originally Posted by ilgart112 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if you want to be the same as everyone else go play wow

Yep

Originally Posted by Lulz Sect [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you could always not camp it

(lol)

*nods*

Originally Posted by baakss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Honestly, you haven't done this camp, so I think your opinion about how great it works is pretty useless.

If you even consider sitting at your computer for 50+ hours an option then you have made very poor life decisions therefore I think your opinion regarding healthy human behavior is pretty useless.

Originally Posted by Solist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sat on a wooden box instead of a chair so my body was forced to stay upright and not 'rest'.

LOL!

[baakss]

Originally Posted by ZiggyTheMuss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you even consider sitting at your computer for 50+ hours an option then you have made very poor life decisions therefore I think your opinion regarding healthy human behavior is pretty useless.

Character sharing is how everyone is doing it. Which is also dumb.