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I asked McCoy to check his old EQ logs for instances where he was binding wound and was interrupted. Here is his reply with log examples:
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So stand in a corner. Doesnt mean you cant combat bind
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If it works like the usual melee casting interrupts (ie clicking items with a cast time, like Daldaen alludes to), standing in a corner won't help you. Interrupt is guaranteed if you take any damage.
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Ah, looking at the timings in the logs is interesting.
In the logs, a successful bandage takes 11 seconds, start to finish: Quote:
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Not up to speed with melee tactics, but a clarifying question:
When you start BW, and the target moves, does BW instantly fail, or does the BW animation/timer continue and only show the failed message at the end of the attempt? Example: Begin BW Target moves BW continues BW continues BW finishes Your target has moved!! BW Failed. or Begin BW Target moves Your target has moved!! BW Failed. If it is the former, and logs show BW failing immediately after taking damage, that is a strong case for damage being what interrupts BW, rather than just movement from being struck.
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There are different strings for different events during Bind Wound:
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If you're bandaging someone else, and they get hit it doesn't interrupt the bandaging:
[Mon Nov 12 23:45:21 2001] You crush a spiderling for 20 points of damage. [Mon Nov 12 23:45:23 2001] Auto attack off. [Mon Nov 12 23:45:26 2001] Your spell fizzles! [Mon Nov 12 23:45:26 2001] You begin casting Markar's Clash. [Mon Nov 12 23:45:30 2001] a spiderling was hit by non-melee for 200 points of damage. [Mon Nov 12 23:45:30 2001] A spiderling is stunned. [Mon Nov 12 23:45:30 2001] You have slain a spiderling! [Mon Nov 12 23:45:30 2001] A spiderling is stunned. [Mon Nov 12 23:45:36 2001] You told nuit, 'stop' [Mon Nov 12 23:45:40 2001] You begin to bandage Nuit. [Mon Nov 12 23:45:43 2001] You say, 'it's dead' [Mon Nov 12 23:45:46 2001] Nuit says, 'whew' [Mon Nov 12 23:45:48 2001] You say, 'hehe' [Mon Nov 12 23:45:50 2001] A skeleton bashes Nuit for 4 points of damage. [Mon Nov 12 23:45:51 2001] The bandaging is complete. [Mon Nov 12 23:45:52 2001] Nuit says, 'thank you sir' [Mon Nov 12 23:45:53 2001] A skeleton hits Nuit for 11 points of damage. Player I was bandaging moved away. Based on the time stamps it looks like I got a message immediately, but had to wait for ability timer to try again: [Tue Nov 13 02:14:39 2001] You begin to bandage Braunwen. [Tue Nov 13 02:14:41 2001] The person you were bandaging has moved away. [Tue Nov 13 02:14:49 2001] You begin to bandage Braunwen. Can bandage others while invis, also 3 letter names are classic? [Thu Nov 15 04:58:43 2001] You say, 'Hail, Ven' [Thu Nov 15 04:58:45 2001] You begin to bandage Ven. [Thu Nov 15 04:58:51 2001] Ven says, 'invised?' [Thu Nov 15 04:58:55 2001] You say, 'yeah' [Thu Nov 15 04:58:55 2001] The bandaging is complete. [Thu Nov 15 04:58:55 2001] You cannot bandage your target past 500f their hit points. [Thu Nov 15 04:58:58 2001] You appear. Looks like a bug where a PC was marked as an NPC? [Sat Nov 17 16:43:11 2001] Liquidshift regards you indifferently -- You could probably win this fight. [Sat Nov 17 16:43:12 2001] Liquidshift crushes orc oracle for 4 points of damage. [Sat Nov 17 16:43:13 2001] orc oracle begins to cast a spell. [Sat Nov 17 16:43:13 2001] You begin to bandage Liquidshift. [Sat Nov 17 16:43:14 2001] You cannot bandage a non-player entity. [Sat Nov 17 16:43:14 2001] Liquidshift crushes orc oracle for 10 points of damage. [Sat Nov 17 16:43:15 2001] orc oracle's casting is interrupted! Another person being bandaged by me while under attack: [Thu Nov 22 14:43:53 2001] You begin to bandage Runeblade. [Thu Nov 22 14:43:57 2001] Taeran auctions, 'Ghostly Robes ac 10 +6intel +8vs fire Cold' [Thu Nov 22 14:43:57 2001] Runeblade slashes a bat for 4 points of damage. [Thu Nov 22 14:43:59 2001] A bat bites Runeblade for 4 points of damage. [Thu Nov 22 14:44:00 2001] Runeblade slashes a bat for 1 point of damage. [Thu Nov 22 14:44:02 2001] A bat bites Runeblade for 4 points of damage. [Thu Nov 22 14:44:04 2001] The bandaging is complete. Another person moves out of range: [Wed Dec 12 00:52:29 2001] You begin to bandage Festival. [Wed Dec 12 00:52:32 2001] The person you were bandaging has moved away. Different out of range message: [Tue Dec 18 18:29:07 2001] You begin to bandage Xorl. [Tue Dec 18 18:29:07 2001] You must be closer to bandage Xorl. [Tue Dec 18 18:29:30 2001] A Mystic Voice shouts 'In approximately 15 minutes the Spires will once again become active. Normal out of range message: [Thu Dec 27 22:45:08 2001] Taradan regards you indifferently -- You could probably win this fight. [Thu Dec 27 22:45:10 2001] You must be closer to bandage Taradan. [Thu Dec 27 22:45:13 2001] Kozlik says, 'im impressed' [Thu Dec 27 22:45:21 2001] You begin to bandage Taradan. Another different OOR message - perhaps at a certain distance or if the target moved OOR after I started bandaging but before the target got bandaged (lag)? [Wed Mar 13 22:09:46 2002] You begin to bandage Rarumen. [Wed Mar 13 22:09:46 2002] You must be closer to bandage Rarumen. [Wed Mar 13 22:09:46 2002] Rarumen yells for help from ahead and to the right of you. [Wed Mar 13 22:09:49 2002] Rarumen says, 'help' Also in this instance it looks like it broke my ability to bandage because the target went LD: [Wed Mar 13 22:10:09 2002] You say, 'hrm can't bandage' [Wed Mar 13 22:10:15 2002] You say, 'wtf?' [Wed Mar 13 22:10:17 2002] Wyrdlan tells the guild, 'I'm just GETTING to y'all' [Wed Mar 13 22:10:28 2002] You say, 'hrm' [Wed Mar 13 22:10:35 2002] You can't use that command right now... [Wed Mar 13 22:10:36 2002] You can't use that command right now... [Wed Mar 13 22:10:38 2002] You can't use that command right now... [Wed Mar 13 22:10:43 2002] You can't use that command right now... [Wed Mar 13 22:10:43 2002] You can't use that command right now... [Wed Mar 13 22:10:43 2002] You can't use that command right now... [Wed Mar 13 22:10:43 2002] You can't use that command right now... [Wed Mar 13 22:10:43 2002] You can't use that command right now... [Wed Mar 13 22:10:44 2002] You can't use that command right now... [Wed Mar 13 22:10:44 2002] You can't use that command right now... [Wed Mar 13 22:10:44 2002] You can't use that command right now... [Wed Mar 13 22:10:44 2002] You can't use that command right now... [Wed Mar 13 22:10:45 2002] You can't use that command right now... [Wed Mar 13 22:10:45 2002] You can't use that command right now... [Wed Mar 13 22:10:50 2002] That is not a valid command. Please use /help. [Wed Mar 13 22:10:51 2002] You can't use that command right now... [Wed Mar 13 22:11:46 2002] You can't use that command right now... [Wed Mar 13 22:11:48 2002] It will take you about 30 seconds to prepare your camp. [Wed Mar 13 22:11:52 2002] It will take about 25 more seconds to prepare your camp. [Wed Mar 13 22:11:55 2002] Smallwood says, 'SG near docks' [Wed Mar 13 22:11:57 2002] It will take about 20 more seconds to prepare your camp. [Wed Mar 13 22:12:00 2002] You told Laliny, 'hrm, brb, I got bugged when he went ld while I was binding' [Wed Mar 13 22:12:02 2002] It will take about 15 more seconds to prepare your camp. [Wed Mar 13 22:12:06 2002] You told Laliny, 'can't push any buttons' [Wed Mar 13 22:12:07 2002] It will take about 10 more seconds to prepare your camp. [Wed Mar 13 22:12:08 2002] Laliny tells you, 'Darn Lag' [Wed Mar 13 22:12:12 2002] It will take about 5 more seconds to prepare your camp. [Wed Mar 13 22:12:12 2002] You told Laliny, 'yeah' [Wed Mar 13 22:12:13 2002] Rarumen says out of character, 'oh goodie i get to die again' [Wed Mar 13 22:12:17 2002] You say out of character, '?' [Wed Mar 13 22:12:18 2002] You can't use that command right now... [Wed Mar 13 22:12:49 2002] Welcome to EverQuest! Moved and canceled my own bandage: [Sat Jul 06 02:25:04 2002] You begin to bandage yourself. [Sat Jul 06 02:25:07 2002] You have moved and your attempt to bandage has failed. Was able to start bandaging myself while casting (from a clicky?): [Sat Jul 06 19:59:16 2002] You begin casting Enticement of Flame. [Sat Jul 06 19:59:16 2002] Your Sorcerer's Robe begins to glow. [Sat Jul 06 19:59:16 2002] You are being bandaged. Stay relatively still. [Sat Jul 06 19:59:17 2002] Your spell is interrupted. [Sat Jul 06 19:59:27 2002] You cannot be bandaged past 50 percent of your max hit points. [Sat Jul 06 19:59:45 2002] You forget Invisibility. Bandaging myself while stunning (Harvest): [Sat Jul 06 22:14:32 2002] You are stunned! [Sat Jul 06 22:14:32 2002] You gather mana from your surroundings. [Sat Jul 06 22:14:33 2002] You can't cast spells while stunned! [Sat Jul 06 22:14:41 2002] You begin to bandage yourself. [Sat Jul 06 22:14:41 2002] Qien saved. [Sat Jul 06 22:14:42 2002] You are unstunned. [Sat Jul 06 22:14:51 2002] The bandaging is complete. Hit by AE and interrupted: [Sat Jul 06 22:15:50 2002] You are being bandaged. Stay relatively still. [Sat Jul 06 22:15:52 2002] The bandaging is complete. [Sat Jul 06 22:15:54 2002] You begin to bandage Zeophyle. [Sat Jul 06 22:16:01 2002] You cannot be bandaged past 50 percent of your max hit points. [Sat Jul 06 22:16:02 2002] The sand at your feet explodes into violent motion! [Sat Jul 06 22:16:02 2002] a Xakra Shah thrashes about, preparing it's attack! [Sat Jul 06 22:16:03 2002] a Xakra Shah begins to cast a spell. [Sat Jul 06 22:16:03 2002] You are hit with a flurry of pebbles. You have taken 50 points of damage. [Sat Jul 06 22:16:04 2002] You have moved and your attempt to bandage has failed. More invis bandaging: [Sun Jul 28 02:18:08 2002] Henderat says, 'hmmm' [Sun Jul 28 02:18:17 2002] You cannot bandage your target past 50 percent of their hit points. [Sun Jul 28 02:18:17 2002] The bandaging is complete. [Sun Jul 28 02:18:33 2002] You say, 'the invisible bandager muhahahah' So apparently I did a lot of bandaging on my Wizard. The above is everything that looked interesting when I searched for "bandage" in his logs. A good chunk of them are in-era too. -Mcoy | ||
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If *you* moved at all (including sitting or standing), or took damage, then it would give the "your attempt to bandage has failed" message. If your movement that caused the interrupt was sitting or standing, then you wouldn't be able to use the skill again until its natural timer end, unless you moved from the exact spot you were standing (at which point the skill would pop back up for usage).
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Bump. I don't think this was classic either, but maybe that's moot:
Even if it worked, patch it out. You've patched out other broken stuff (hoop functionality in raids for example) for much less common abuse (only a couple guilds doing it, in that item's case). You want to have classic EQ, you don't get it in an environment where every melee solo's largely risk-free. Danth | ||
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