the i dont care about politics anymore thread

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by Botten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is so stupid and it comes from the very Republican (Rand Paul) that didn't use precaution and got Covid19.

The human population has seen a Coronavirus (what Covid19 is) in the past kill millions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1889%E...31890_pandemic

To think a coronavirus has to be engineered and released on the public is ridiculously stupid and at one time was only meant as comedy.

My God, SARS-Cov-2 (a Coronavirus) had just affected China in 2004.

In fact there are over 500 Coronavirus like viruses found in some of the bats studied.
It would be irresponsible if we didn't study these viruses (even stated by Fauci)
And yes some of them can be passed on to humans from the bat.

Hell, Scientists from the Wuhan Institute of Virology went to the cave to collect guano samples. In November 2019, three researchers became sick with a flu-like illness and sought hospital care, according to a U.S. intelligence.

The first known coronavirus cases were reported in late December 2019 in Wuhan province, and the first death was reported there in January 2020. It is very possible those individuals passed the Conoravirus we know now as a variant Covid19.

We seem to forget the mismanaged response to this virus in the US was clearly from one party. Those that continue to pass misinformation by regurgitation word of mouth (their own research) are the problem. To the point many of these who have succumb to this misinformation have turned to Xenophobia to work out their aggression and confusion.

"Knowledge" who is just Nirgon and Meso you are extremely to easily manipulated by conspiracy theories. Saying get help really isn't going to fix anything. Even taking your soapbox away hasn't helped. Others just need to realize you have issues. I just feel bad that partisan posters will look to your statements as supporting talking points.

What the hell are you talking about? Sars-cov-2 *IS* the current pandemic virus. It causes the disease known as Covid-19. You follow? You're thinking of Sars-cov-1, colloquially known as just "SARS" which was a briefly-lived virus in 2004. Technically it does still exist, but almost nobody gets it. "SARS" was much more deadly than Covid-19, but much less contagious. So they kind of have an inverted relationship.

The NIH admitted they were funding gain of function research in wuhan. *They* admitted it. How much more will it take for you to accept it's not some wacky right wing conspiracy theory? Gain of function is the process of manipulating a natural virus to make it more transmissible and more dangerous to humans, in an effort to develop more effective defenses against such viruses.

Their excuse is essentially "well, err, we didn't realize at the time that's what it was. And fauci didn't lie exactly, cause he didn't know at the time either! derp!". Like, are these people professionals? They apparently don't even *KNOW* what they're funding??

Keep blaming everything on republicans though, and all the mental gymnastics that entails. Rand Paul was totally right about this, get over it.

[Horza]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What the hell are you talking about? Sars-cov-2 *IS* the current pandemic virus. It causes the disease known as Covid-19. You follow? You're thinking of Sars-cov-1, colloquially known as just "SARS" which was a briefly-lived virus in 2004. Technically it does still exist, but almost nobody gets it. "SARS" was much more deadly than Covid-19, but much less contagious. So they kind of have an inverted relationship.

The NIH admitted they were funding gain of function research in wuhan. *They* admitted it. How much more will it take for you to accept it's not some wacky right wing conspiracy theory? Gain of function is the process of manipulating a natural virus to make it more transmissible and more dangerous to humans, in an effort to develop more effective defenses against such viruses.

Their excuse is essentially "well, err, we didn't realize at the time that's what it was. And fauci didn't lie exactly, cause he didn't know at the time either! derp!". Like, are these people professionals? They apparently don't even *KNOW* what they're funding??

Keep blaming everything on republicans though, and all the mental gymnastics that entails. Rand Paul was totally right about this, get over it.

The problem with a right wing echo chamber is that no serious scientist thinks Rand Paul is a credible expert on anything but his navel.

[Jibartik]

yeah but he did catch facui in a lie. And a big effing lie at that.

This is the reason things are not working, all the people in power think lying is how to make people trust them.

Its not the trumpers fault, its the leaders that cant figure out how to make people trust them.

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by Horza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The problem with a right wing echo chamber is that no serious scientist thinks Rand Paul is a credible expert on anything but his navel.

Fauci totally lied tho

[Whale biologist]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yeah but he did catch facui in a lie. And a big effing lie at that.

This is the reason things are not working, all the people in power think lying is how to make people trust them.

Its not the trumpers fault, its the leaders that cant figure out how to make people trust them.

They were putting bat virus spike into mouses and it wasn't from the covid family of coronaviruses anyway.

When your argument depends on the audience not knowing anything, that's called an appeal to ignorance. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It sounds like "China!" but with extra steps.

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by Whale biologist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They were putting bat virus spike into mouses and it wasn't from the covid family of coronaviruses anyway.

When your argument depends on the audience not knowing anything, that's called an appeal to ignorance. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bro you tryin to spin like a top

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by Horza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The problem with a right wing echo chamber is that no serious scientist thinks Rand Paul is a credible expert on anything but his navel.

Ah, no "serious" scientists. "Serious" scientists are the ones who agree with you, I presume.

No true scottsman believes this!

The NIH *admitted it*. Dear lord. How wedded to your ideology are you?

[Whale biologist]

Originally Posted by Elizondo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bro you tryin to spin like a top

I dunno. I might tolerate libeling Fauci in a greater play against the CCP anyway.

Hope this helps.

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by Whale biologist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They were putting bat virus spike into mouses and it wasn't from the covid family of coronaviruses anyway.

When your argument depends on the audience not knowing anything, that's called an appeal to ignorance. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It sounds like "China!" but with extra steps.

Haha "bat virus spike". You mean spike protein?

Yes actually, they *were* putting spike protein from a novel bat coronavirus into mice, to ultimately study how it might affect humans. Nobody is saying this is some kind of Dr.Evil research, it does have an altruistic goal, which is to protect humans from deadly viruses. However gain of function research had been deemed too dangerous and risky to experiment with, precisely because of the potential risk of a pandemic. This is why fauci is lying about it, he is trying to cover his own ass like every other slimeball bureaucrat ever.

The whole convoluted argument boils down to retarded political tribalism. If you're left, fauci good. If you're right, fauci bad. However the right is correct on this, and the left is just kicking and screaming like an infant to deny it.

[Whale biologist]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Haha "bat virus spike". You mean spike protein?

Yes actually, they *were* putting spike protein from a novel bat coronavirus into mice, to ultimately study how it might affect humans. Nobody is saying this is some kind of Dr.Evil research, it does have an altruistic goal, which is to protect humans from deadly viruses. However gain of function research had been deemed too dangerous and risky to experiment with, precisely because of the potential risk of a pandemic. This is why fauci is lying about it, he is trying to cover his own ass like every other slimeball bureaucrat ever.

The whole convoluted argument boils down to retarded political tribalism. If you're left, fauci good. If you're right, fauci bad. However the right is correct on this, and the left is just kicking and screaming like an infant to deny it.

Well is/was it the same coronavirus we've been dealing with this past period? I would guess not.

FURTHER QUIBBLING: who decides it's too dangerous? Some sort of governing health body at the federal level?