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Old 10-05-2016, 11:23 AM
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From history, you can know if Russia supports something, its for the wrong reason.

Such is the case with Assad. Syria = bad guys. Syria's allies Iran = bad guys. Russia = Iranian AND Syrian ally and thus = bad guys.

The cover is blown at this point using the ISIS army, they might as well start killing ISIS to establish a precedent that we are "actually" fighting the bad guys. Once they've convinced everyone we are back on the right side, accidentally blow up ISIS and Syrias army.

Russia won't do shit. Its all posturing. Their country is proud, but poor as fuck and still behind us militarily.
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Old 10-05-2016, 11:27 AM
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They might not have as many bells and whistles as us, but they've done more to fight ISIS than we ever will (because we're funding ISIS)
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Old 10-05-2016, 11:30 AM
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This is pretty basic if you keep up with news from Syria. Basically the US razed a bunch of Assad's troops last week claiming it was an accident and now wants to enforce a no fly zone. The US is backed into a corner and Russia refuses to play ball since they know the US is backing ISIS. Putin thinks that if he threatens war Obama will back down (which he has steadily done his entire Presidency). To show he is serious they go back to cold war nuke drills. US resumes bomber flights etc. Its cold war 2.0. US is really fucking up trying to enforce a no fly zone but they are realizing Russia is not going to be diplomatic about keeping their proxy in power and Syrian port.
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Old 10-05-2016, 11:33 AM
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They might not have as many bells and whistles as us, but they've done more to fight ISIS than we ever will (because we're funding ISIS)
Ya, we're funding ISIS because the US is too scared of the UN to blow countries like Iran and Syria into the stone age.

Russia fights ISIS because they stand to weaken the US by helping allied arab nations unite against the US and establish an independent oil market. By breaking down the commodity backing the dollar (oil), they could crash the US economy without ever firing a missile in our direction.

I'd personally rather we just do it all out in the open while waving our manparts in front of the U.N. but have no problem with them using ISIS as long as we remember to dispose of them when we're done.
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Old 10-05-2016, 11:51 AM
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From history, you can know if Russia supports something, its for the wrong reason.
Epic troll, this sentence actually gave me a physical headache
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Old 10-05-2016, 12:38 PM
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Epic troll, this sentence actually gave me a physical headache
The truth can often be painful. If you actually think Russia is right in supporting Syria, bring forth your reasoning.

Whatever you do please don't come forward with something stupid like they are good guys and just want to fight ISIS.
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Old 10-05-2016, 12:55 PM
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The truth can often be painful. If you actually think Russia is right in supporting Syria, bring forth your reasoning.

Whatever you do please don't come forward with something stupid like they are good guys and just want to fight ISIS.
the only one bringing the goodguy/badguy dichotomy to this conversation is you mein goi

why it is good they are supporting Syria? the globalist faction destabilizing Syria and using US air power to help ISIS gain victories wants chaos in Syria, the highly publicized brutal slaughter of innocents, ISIS propaganda etc to drive American public opinion into justifying a "humanitarian" invasion during the next administration. Obviously Russia is simply resisting the expansion of the US sphere of influence into their own, not doing something because it is right or wrong (yikes), but in this case the Russkie goal of preventing an American invasion aligns with that of Americans who don't want to see US military assets sucked into another quagmire predicated on lies to enrich war profiteer traitors and foreigners.
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Old 10-05-2016, 12:58 PM
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forum really needs a mode where you can vote ZERO FUCKING STARS FOR THIS PIECE OF SHIT

the "one star" message doesn't seem to bring it to some
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the only one bringing the goodguy/badguy dichotomy to this conversation is you mein goi

why it is good they are supporting Syria? the globalist faction destabilizing Syria and using US air power to help ISIS gain victories wants chaos in Syria, the highly publicized brutal slaughter of innocents, ISIS propaganda etc to drive American public opinion into justifying a "humanitarian" invasion during the next administration. Obviously Russia is simply resisting the expansion of the US sphere of influence into their own, not doing something because it is right or wrong (yikes), but in this case the Russkie goal of preventing an American invasion aligns with that of Americans who don't want to see US military assets sucked into another quagmire predicated on lies to enrich war profiteer traitors and foreigners.
Thats the problem. By not thinking in terms of right or wrong you will always be stuck in shades of grey.

Syria are bad guys. Oh but they have a "secular leader". Bullshit. They are dealing with Iran and Russia. These are not good countries. They are demonstrably bad for as long as we can remember. Even if Assad wanted to, he couldn't bring any real peace to the region because his country is 70% muslim and clearly, they don't even like him

Ok so its some globalist faction destabilizing Syria. Tell me what motivation globalists (this term gets misused so much) have that would be any more pertinent than independent US motivations of preventing a coalition of arab nations from toppling the oil-backed US economy?
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Thats the problem. By not thinking in terms of right or wrong you will always be stuck in shades of grey.
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Syria are bad guys.
Does that make ISIS good guys? If not, which guys are worse? Oh Peter Dooky, we're back into those "shades of grey" my willful lobotomy was supposed to wipe out!!!


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Oh but they have a "secular leader". Bullshit. They are dealing with Iran and Russia. These are not good countries. They are demonstrably bad for as long as we can remember.
The alternative is the United States of America. You know, the country where the president who presided over drug dealing to impoverished blacks domestically to bypass congress in funding covert wars is still worshiped as a hero and the greatest post-WW2 leader (triggered?). There are not "good guys".

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Even if Assad wanted to, he couldn't bring any real peace to the region because his country is 70% muslim and clearly, they don't even like him
Assad, Saddam and Gaddafi all had pretty solid control over their respective territories before they were destabilized from outside. Your statement above is simply false, and you are in one deep motherfucking slumber if you believe the continuing instability in Syria is an organic outgrowth of an organic Arab Spring.


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Ok so its some globalist faction destabilizing Syria. Tell me what motivation globalists (this term gets misused so much) have that would be any more pertinent than independent US motivations of preventing a coalition of arab nations from toppling the oil-backed US economy?
Instability in the middle-east is highly conducive to the goals of (((internationalist financiers))) and American/Europeans with (((dual loyalties))) although it is partially aligned with support of the petrodollar (entangling alliance, and you are not an American if you think it is a good thing). You can disagree or call me tinfoil for believing that these people will follow their "prophecy" even deeper down the rabbit hole, but considering that Zionists are fully planning on the destruction of Israel as a stepping stone to global dominion, I consider them to be globalists. Maybe I'm wrong and Zionists really are just Israeli nationalists and I'm misusing the word "globalism". shrug
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