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lol here to be specific when you order fresh (packaging aside I mean the packaging in fresh is insane, they will put string cheese in its own mylar bag for christ sake, milk, anything even slightly cold, its own exceptionally not recycable bag)
but yea, its gig economy so the drivers come from far far away to deliver your groceries picked up either from that same store less than 2 miles away, or one out of the way on their way in. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] | ||
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How many 2/5 mile round-trips does it take to out-carbon an Amazon truck doing a 96 mile round-trip delivering along the way?
Youve made a good point about instacart lol | ||
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Yeah, and fresh works same as instacart. But think about it this way, when you're outside whether you're on foot or driving and if you do your shopping then, vs being outside and having a few personal assistants doing it for you, driving all around those same streets, well there you go.
Like most things delivery systems are for convinence, not the betterment of society. Jeff Bezo's is a smart guy but he's not making the world a better place with the delivery system he's built/building. Im not smart enough to know this much but my guess would be that it'd take some kind of electrical drone system to have a reverse impact on your footprint ordering something online. Another way to think about it is like, every few items in order, you create a copy of you that appears somewhere, drives out and buys it and brings it house, and then drives back to where they started and disappears. | ||
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Yeah ease of access is a big part of the problem, but its also efficency of access. Like with non grocery goods it'd be better to go to best buy and pick up 3 things than to buy 3 things online from 3 different stores that gets peaced together and shipped to you.
So when you go to the store people will think about efficiency vs online they just buy what they want when they want it, so that has a big ding that would according to that show the good place, send us to the bad place. (and Gretta would agree hehe) But also its not a net neutral unless the people stay home, and or are already driving a car that they wouldn't be if they didn't order fresh. Like people in urban cities that don't have cars that order fresh? Well boom they just put themselves on the emissions map x2 because the driver was already on it. Like yeah totally I agree there is a system that could exist that would be net neutral, but with the infrastructure that we have available right now it's better for consumers to go to the store fronts, i mean not during a pandemic, but when this is over and we can go back to normal life, that is. For now stay home and order fresh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] | ||
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gdi I re-read that and I got efficiency vs ease a little jumbled up, what I meant was efficiency is bad because even if you order everything at once, it still comes from multiple locations. So if you fix the ease of access issue, you still have the efficiency problem.
1 day out shopping within a 5 mile radius vs fleet of 3 personal assistants shopping for you traveling from out of town to get there picking up items from multiple locations outside of your 5 mile radius packaging each item individually multiple drivers converging to leave package at your home random thief steals your package it explodes full of confetti cus you're a youtuber confetti turns out to be acid hours later thief climbs out window attacks family next door family next door escapes and drives to hospital but gets in car crash crash was with doctor who was on his way work with the idea to cure cancer he ded now tho good job, you killed the guy that was going to cure cancer cus you wanted new pair of beats by dre on amazon. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] | ||
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Let's not act like Amazon solves driving. The society we live in heavily incentivizes car ownership and penalizes non-drivers.
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or you could just grow a garden. Hell, even a few planter buckets on your tiny apartment patio can produce more food than most ever believe.
We have two cheap buckets from Home Depot. One has two tomato plants, one jalapeno and one bell pepper plant. Other one has basil, rosemary, tarragon and dill. If you have a small patch of actual yard rip out some of the grass and start composting everything. It'll take a year to have really good soil but it's worth the bit of extra effort. | ||
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But here's the sad thing: all they ever do is smell nice, because I still wind up buying the store herbs. Do you how much effort it takes to cut the herbs, wash them, pull the leaves off, and then chop up or grind them? Way more than it takes to buy them [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Loramin is lazy. But I also have a tomato plant, two bell peppers, a jalapeno, green beans, zucchini, cucumbers, and blue berries, and it's definitely less effort to just grab them off the plant, so I heartily recommend everyone grow fruits and veggies ... just not herbs.
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