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I do wish the staff would talk about it more, since it's a pretty big part of the game, but they feel like even just talking about it is unclassic.
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But what we gained in classic "mystery", we lost in ... well, everything else. As I've said in other threads, NO ONE wins from the current ZEM system. Whether you're a classicist or a "make P99 as close to live today as possible" player, and whether you want to see "classic clumping" in certain dungeons or whether you'd like to see the population more spread out ... ... no matter what, the current ZEMs don't serve your, or anyone else's, interest. I honestly don't think they even serve the staff's (except that not changing them = less work for the staff).
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if the Project 1999: Green/Teal 2019 ZEMS are randomly generated and randomly change after X hour/X date, do you EVEN think Staff would let the playerbase know?
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No one (except the staff) knows the current ZEMs, so it's fallacious for anyone to claim that A) they know what they all are, and B) that they're all the same as, or close to, classic ZEMs. All you, I, or anyone else has to go on is subjective player reports. If you take those reports for what they are, in aggregate, they most certainly do strongly suggest that zones here have unclassic ZEMs, and this fact is not controversial. People have given numerous specific examples (eg. in those other threads you referenced reading). There's no point in repeating them all here, but one very obvious one is Kedge Keep. Kedge gave very good XP on live, and gives comparatively terrible XP here, so while no one knows it's exact ZEM, subjective measurements strongly suggest it's significantly different (and not classic) here. At the end of the day, I'm all for rotating dynamic ZEMs, or the staff setting some new sensible ones that encourage people to not clump, or whatever. I'm also in favor of 100% classic ZEMs. But either way, if we can't even acknowledge the reality that the staff made a Faustian bargain with ZEMs here (they wanted mystery and traded both the original devs' goals/logic and the "soul of classic" to get it), I don't see how the discussion can really be honest. TLDR; I don't see how unclassically nerfing the XP of a zone like Kedge makes the game better for anyone ... but P99 definitely does it.
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That I have to explain something as basic as that to you, or the fact that people care about zones other than your pet five, just demonstrates why there's no point in engaging further with you.
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Edit: also I acknowledge they've changed zem for zones like kedge and possibly lake for balance reasons. That's a corner case and not really related to this topic.
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