Name and Shame - Normal (Bard)

[westarcher]

This might just be me but my experience in everfrost has been nothing but people not picking up items.
Decent stuff too! Either people dont realize the value of some stuff or their bags are full, and this has carried over into bb as well, I'm not going to lie I've found fangs on corpses with nobody really around as well.

He does have a point, people are going to be checking corpses like crazy. Definitely take advantage of the loot timer

[Khorza]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not too hard to ask if you can loot someones rots

Sure but now you're introducing a bunch of problems that never existed in the first place.

How do you determine who "owns" that corpse? There's nothing in the game to allow you to do this, and just because someone is sitting by a corpse doesn't mean that they killed the mob. There's no way to ensure that the person allowing you to loot a corpse ever had authority to do such a thing in the first place.

Investigating the whos, whats, whys, whens, and hows of corpse ownership also takes an investment of time beyond just looting the corpse. What if the person doesn't respond? What if you can't track down the owner? What if someone else just loots it while you're performing your investigation?

Now you've turned one of the most simple and agreed on parts of the game into an inquisition.

[bum3]

So this is how corpsing items and selling them began? With a rule that says ignore the corpse timers and you cannot loot at all unless you did the killing? Seems like such a RMT purpose to create a rule for a minor set of population.

[stewe]

I will continue to loot corpses that have been unlocked as i have always done, you have plenty of time to loot your kill while it is locked (raid targets are obviously different), GMs arent going to be banning ppl for lootings a gnoll fang

[Llandris]

A lot of misinformation in this thread. These questions are easily answered by reading the PNP that is posted everywhere on these forums.

[Danger]

Originally Posted by Llandris [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A lot of misinformation in this thread. These questions are easily answered by reading the PNP that is posted everywhere on these forums.

I didn't kill this bear. I looted this chunk of meat.

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Is that against the rules?

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Khorza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sure but now you're introducing a bunch of problems that never existed in the first place.

How do you determine who "owns" that corpse? There's nothing in the game to allow you to do this, and just because someone is sitting by a corpse doesn't mean that they killed the mob. There's no way to ensure that the person allowing you to loot a corpse ever had authority to do such a thing in the first place.

Investigating the whos, whats, whys, whens, and hows of corpse ownership also takes an investment of time beyond just looting the corpse. What if the person doesn't respond? What if you can't track down the owner? What if someone else just loots it while you're performing your investigation?

Now you've turned one of the most simple and agreed on parts of the game into an inquisition.

i'm not introducing problems, I'm being realistic in dealing with 'problems' the server's owners have introduced for whatever their own reasons are. My choices are adapt, go somewhere else or spend 10 years creating my own classic server complete with volunteer csr.

If you didn't kill a mob and you can't verify permission from the 'owner' just don't loot.

[bum3]

Originally Posted by bubur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

im'a be a man about it and be the first to say i'd have looted that fang too

Me too. Most of us would have. There are ways the group can easily manage the loot better. IE the next person loots and when that person gets back they loot the next and order resumed as normal. Just silly. Timer was created for a reason.

[Wwen42]

I expected a virulent douche bag, but the log was a big ole nothing burger. The admin team would create even less work for themselves if they just said "make sure you loot your mobs, it's not our problem." And rode off into the sunset like cowboys.

[Khorza]

Originally Posted by Llandris [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A lot of misinformation in this thread. These questions are easily answered by reading the PNP that is posted everywhere on these forums.

Instead of saying "there's a lot of misinformation here" - maybe clear up the misinformation. The reason that there's misinformation is because apparently the rule isn't clear. Isn't the goal to create a fair and clear set of rules to reduce the workload of the volunteer support staff?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Play Nice Policy that you referenced doesn't seem to mention anything about corpse timers.

Originally Posted by Wwen42 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The admin team would create even less work for themselves if they just said "make sure you loot your mobs, it's not our problem." And rode off into the sunset like cowboys.

Yup, exactly. "Loot your mobs within the 2 minute timer. Support staff is not responsible for the distribution of loot items once the 2 minute timer has passed."