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Old 11-29-2021, 01:13 AM
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How about stop ruining items? Bladestopper nerf made naggy nearly a useless mob, no one even attempts to kill it with any priority. Puppet strings are completely useless now other than for OT hammers. The real issue here is that the clicky nerf killed content. Prayers are completely useless. No one touches root nets anymore, useless. Literally every item touched is basically removed from the game. Red wood wands, useless

If anything the clicky nerf should be scaled back so these items are useful again. All this proposal does is once again kill guild diversity by forcing guilds to carry 100+ active raiders, effectively funneling every player to two guilds to be competitive
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Old 11-29-2021, 01:18 AM
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if you have this much of an issue with things on a non -classic server.. go play on green or just stop playing.. there is NOTHING about blue that is classic.. if you read their description the devs even word it as their idea of how classic should have been.. stop looking for things to nerf because YOU aren't happy.. move to a different server or play a different game..
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Old 11-29-2021, 01:33 AM
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If you cast identify on the larry mask it says "class 3", seems intended/classic.
More like incorrectly flagged rechargable due to being mistaken for PoSky loot due to having 10 charges. There's no logical reason for a non PoSky item to be rechargable via PoSky.
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Old 11-29-2021, 01:54 AM
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Hooping trakanon down happenned once ever on the server. We used to carry maybe 10 total in the raid. But yes, that one occasion destroyed necromancers and SK's for the rest of the server's duration from 2012 onwards. Amazing.
Yeah that one is mega unclassic and mega cringe
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Old 11-29-2021, 02:04 AM
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Quite the bold post asserting that staff has made an error in the itemization changes they deemed necessary to more closely replicate their vision of classic. Especially after being able to see the results of said changes, somehow your opinion needs extra special attention called to it while providing them with no new additional information.

Maybe instead of acting as some infantile tattletale trying to troll and encroach on the gameplay of others via disingenuous petition you could take the existing rules and apply them to yourself:

The following types of names are considered unacceptable:
Proper names from EverQuest (e.g. Rathe, Karana). This also includes the first or last name of any significant EverQuest NPC (e.g. Dorn, Trumpy, Karn).

Maybe it's time to rename that little gnome. Crybaby Balderson or something.
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Old 11-29-2021, 04:07 AM
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Quite the bold post asserting that staff has made an error in the itemization changes they deemed necessary to more closely replicate their vision of classic. Especially after being able to see the results of said changes, somehow your opinion needs extra special attention called to it while providing them with no new additional information.

Maybe instead of acting as some infantile tattletale trying to troll and encroach on the gameplay of others via disingenuous petition you could take the existing rules and apply them to yourself:

The following types of names are considered unacceptable:
Proper names from EverQuest (e.g. Rathe, Karana). This also includes the first or last name of any significant EverQuest NPC (e.g. Dorn, Trumpy, Karn).

Maybe it's time to rename that little gnome. Crybaby Balderson or something.
Did you even read the post?

The clicky nerf did nothing to address abuse of clickies in the raid scene. I want the rest nerfed as well.
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Old 11-29-2021, 04:11 AM
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if you have this much of an issue with things on a non -classic server.. go play on green or just stop playing.. there is NOTHING about blue that is classic.. if you read their description the devs even word it as their idea of how classic should have been.. stop looking for things to nerf because YOU aren't happy.. move to a different server or play a different game..
You know green is identical to blue in this regard, everything is the same there.
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Old 11-29-2021, 08:53 AM
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Did you even read the post?

The clicky nerf did nothing to address abuse of clickies in the raid scene. I want the rest nerfed as well.
Why is it abuse? Just because you say so? Seems like players found interesting and unique ways to use existing items and that was somehow a bad thing. Instead of being viewed as inevitable. If you put people in a sandbox for 10+ years they're going to explore every nook and cranny of said sandbox and find every possible use for the sand.

Give it a rest. Unnerf all the clickies. Bring them back to their classic functionality.
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Old 11-29-2021, 03:18 PM
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Some examples of these items being used in a very unclassic and unintended way is an entire raid force using bags worth of an instant cast direct damage click items to blast a raid mob dead in less than a minute. Another situation is the use of these items to bypass the normal hate/aggro building mechanics of the game. Yet another case is the use of certain items to allow a low level player to defeat large groups of higher level mobs, effectively solo powerlevelling."
It's clear that the intent of the item nerf was to ensure these items did not trivialize content. If there are items that they missed that also trivialize content in the same manner, then it stands to reason that they should also be nerfed.

I have been told for the last 10+ years that the hardcore competitive raid guilds would appreciate the extra challenge and the opportunity to compete against each other in adapting to the loss of the use of these items, so there shouldn't be any complaints in removing "EZ mode."
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Old 11-29-2021, 06:48 PM
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Why is it abuse? Just because you say so? Seems like players found interesting and unique ways to use existing items and that was somehow a bad thing. Instead of being viewed as inevitable. If you put people in a sandbox for 10+ years they're going to explore every nook and cranny of said sandbox and find every possible use for the sand.

Give it a rest. Unnerf all the clickies. Bring them back to their classic functionality.
You're absolutely right.

It is abuse becuase it goes against the spirit of the game, in accordance with the spirit of the game the staff nerfed these items. So we would play by the spirit of the game. The nerf failed, as we just use different items now. Nothing changed. The nerf failed.

So yes, bring them back to how they were for 9 years.
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Nerf the rest of them, and push the point further.


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It's clear that the intent of the item nerf was to ensure these items did not trivialize content. If there are items that they missed that also trivialize content in the same manner, then it stands to reason that they should also be nerfed.

I have been told for the last 10+ years that the hardcore competitive raid guilds would appreciate the extra challenge and the opportunity to compete against each other in adapting to the loss of the use of these items, so there shouldn't be any complaints in removing "EZ mode."
The intent of the nerf was to ensure these items did not trivialize content.
We just changed from item a to item b, and continued to trivialize content.

Please nerf item b, as well. Or un nerf a. Both are fine with me, I have no dog in the fight.

There is currently the same EZ Mode as you put it, as those items that were nerfed aren't even really missed in the raiding scene, all got replaced with different more obscure items.
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