the i dont care about politics anymore thread

[Whale biologist]

it only becomes theft when it's not a portion of your GAINZ.

Tithe to princeps or else.

[starkind]

Which kind of government is easiest to overthrow?

Fascist?
Monarchy?
Totalitarian?
Socialist?
Democratic?
Republican?
Communist?
Dictatorship?
Military?
Federation?
Corporate?
Theocratic?
Combination?

And in which order?

A militaristic communist theocracy. Seems like it'd be hard to overthrow maybe. Especially once it gets a solid foothold and a few generations of conditioning into its population. Those are probably the most stable governments.

[Jibartik]

what are all the south American and asian governments before they are overthrown with a socialist coop? Whatever the most of them are.

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I also am arguing this should be done to curb scalping of electronics, something that is also supposedly in the works

Scalping is worse than it has ever been, and automated systems to catch scripts and bots buying up all the new graphics cards and video game consoles simply don't work. Something needs to be done to prevent this from continuing to get out of control. We don't want an economy where all video game system's prices from release for the next 2 years are controlled by scalpers exploiting the rich who are willing to overspend 2-3x the value of the console at the cost of the non-rich

I don't see houses as any different, if real estate continues to get more and more out of control due to investment firms buying it all up

I don’t know the answer man, but my son, an optometrist, made $11 million in stocks and crypto (he had a ton of Bitcoin and ethereum) over the course of the pandemic, and he moved to Florida and retired. He owns two homes in Texas, one that he rents and one that is an airbnb, and neither him nor his wife work

Something is fucked up about that, and we’ve had higher marginal tax rates before. I don’t think thirty year olds should be retiring while others quite literally suffer. I am also not a fascist or a statist, so I wouldn’t throw my son into a gulag or force him to work, but I don’t know the answer. There has to be a happy medium between complete libertarian freedom and communism. Its also important to note that I’ve told my children to invest in index funds and my son has always done that, so a big part of the money he made was due to the Fed pumping money into the stock market. Our government has a lot to do with some market and real estate gains, so why not raise taxes back to Reagan levels? I never said 100%, and I am not saying increase taxes on anyone making under $100,000. However, the current situation is unsustainable. An Airbnb property should provide capital to the owner at 5x what a teacher makes? Doesn’t make sense if we want to incentivize hard work instead of everyone becoming an obese crypto shitlord

[Jibartik]

the only thing that would change any of that is culturally if we realized that none of that makes us whole.

unfortunately that is the stark opposite of where we are and where we're trending.

you described the entire "dream"

[starkind]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what are all the south American and asian governments before they are overthrown with a socialist coop? Whatever the most of them are.

Usually some twisted form of democratic republican socialism lawl.

They are or where absolute models of our government in many cases. What happens there though is the Federal becomes so corrupt Usually another corrupt group easily overthrows them with a coup backed by third parties and drug money, then they do that every few years until complete anarchy. Then there's some kind of communist revolution which eventually collapses when there's no more foreign money. Then back to a very localised form of governments where the cities are well governed, the rural population essentially ungoverned or treated as non citizens. And left essentially in the wind for international interests to step in and try to develop via the cities and ports creating refugees and or guerillas. It's all very comical if you're in a heartless mood. Honestly I feel like that's just the default defacto state of humanity without some kind of religion state or otherwise driving cultural values of responsibility and discipline.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don’t know the answer man, but my son, an optometrist, made $11 million in stocks and crypto (he had a ton of Bitcoin and ethereum) over the course of the pandemic, and he moved to Florida and retired. He owns two homes in Texas, one that he rents and one that is an airbnb, and neither him nor his wife work

Something is fucked up about that, and we’ve had higher marginal tax rates before. I don’t think thirty year olds should be retiring while others quite literally suffer. I am also not a fascist or a statist, so I wouldn’t throw my son into a gulag or force him to work, but I don’t know the answer. There has to be a happy medium between complete libertarian freedom and communism. Its also important to note that I’ve told my children to invest in index funds and my son has always done that, so a big part of the money he made was due to the Fed pumping money into the stock market. Our government has a lot to do with some market and real estate gains, so why not raise taxes back to Reagan levels? I never said 100%, and I am not saying increase taxes on anyone making under $100,000. However, the current situation is unsustainable. An Airbnb property should provide capital to the owner at 5x what a teacher makes? Doesn’t make sense if we want to incentivize hard work instead of everyone becoming an obese crypto shitlord

Ok, I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt that I am definitely the one that knows less about real estate, just going off personal experience

But what your son is choosing to charge for his Airbnb is a function of multiple things, right? It’s not just his whim, I’m assuming he’s basing the price around the competition? Because if the competition is charging significantly less, he wouldn’t get any customers. Unless his home is in some exotic location where there are no competitors

And is an Airbnb considered like rent? I’ve actually never stayed at a Airbnb but isn’t just really short term? When I think rent costs, I am thinking either month to month or leases you get into with the landlord. Not that those prices aren’t going up as well, but aren’t they different categorically to a 1 night stay at a BnB?

I’m going to assume a scenario where instead of a BnB, your son rents the property to someone, and makes money that way. Let’s assume he owns the property so the rent goes into his pocket and doesn’t have to go towards the property’s mortgage

That would mean your son has whatever the value of the home in $$ to invest into a way of making money. If he wanted, he could sell the property and have probably hundreds of thousands of $$ to invest in some other business venture. Had he chose, he could buy multiple store franchises for that (not chains, just multiple individual stores). Or like you said, a smart investment of those hundreds of thousands of dollars into the stock market or crypto could be enough to live off of

I really don’t see the problem with your son’s situation. Also, I think the value of homes and rent are going up because the real estate market is too hot, and that’s due to big investment firms and whales, not your son

[unsunghero]

Wow I always wondered if the government could ever make police go door to door to gather up guns. That is actually a lot more unlikely than I thought

I just stumbled onto some firearms law. Apparently if you own an illegal firearm, let’s say an automatic weapon, the federal government can send an argent from ATF (alcohol, tobacco, and firearms) to your door to seize it. They can and will identify themselves as a cop, and demand you open the door

But you don’t have to. And they can’t do anything further without getting a warrant first. I’m assuming this is possible, but just adds another layer of complication. And this is to get something like a fully automatic weapon. The red tape required to get them to search your home for something like a pistol? Probably never gonna happen

Just more reason to reinforce why people intended to continue to break the law should never talk to or open their door for cops

[myrddraal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmZIJwJlApg

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by starkind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Usually some twisted form of democratic republican socialism lawl.

They are or where absolute models of our government in many cases. What happens there though is the Federal becomes so corrupt Usually another corrupt group easily overthrows them with a coup backed by third parties and drug money, then they do that every few years until complete anarchy. Then there's some kind of communist revolution which eventually collapses when there's no more foreign money. Then back to a very localised form of governments where the cities are well governed, the rural population essentially ungoverned or treated as non citizens. And left essentially in the wind for international interests to step in and try to develop via the cities and ports creating refugees and or guerillas. It's all very comical if you're in a heartless mood. Honestly I feel like that's just the default defacto state of humanity without some kind of religion state or otherwise driving cultural values of responsibility and discipline.

youre describing little mini usa's haha (and mini Russia's and chinas ha)

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know nothing about real estate, and this is just off the top of my head. But just like you need a real estate license to buy or sell other people's properties, make a different license you need to apply for in order to buy and sell properties on a large scale. And limit the total number of these licenses allowed per year based on the number of homes constructed, or something like that

Without this license, you are limited to buying an arbitrary number of properties, say something like 5

Why couldn't something like this happen?

The problem is that owning realilstate is well, the american dream.

Culturally this country is, weather we want to admit it or not, a culture of ownership. It has built a great nation.

But we've changed a lot, we dont believe in anything, we're all nihilistis, and we dont think there is a future.

We've built a global market where shadows can buy anything and created a society where selling everything you have is the best you can be.

I like what patriam said or basically, anything like making owning a second home pointless beyond saving you time looking for a rental would help.

Owning 2 houses should at best be like keeping your money in the mattress. A pathetic laughed at thing to do if you're trying to "save your money".

The money should be invested into bonds to make the country a better place instead.