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Old 03-04-2014, 12:01 PM
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So rampage is a full round of melee, including offhand. Would prefer some logs to support this. Shouldn't be too hard to find.

And I'm still also assuming Flurry is only an extra mainhand round, and not a full quad (Mobs would hit 8 times at once during a flurry if that was the case).
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Old 03-04-2014, 12:47 PM
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[Wed Apr 03 22:14:26 2002] The Avatar of War was hit by non-melee for 79 points of damage.
[Wed Apr 03 22:14:26 2002] The Avatar of War hits YOU for 659 points of damage.
[Wed Apr 03 22:14:26 2002] The Avatar of War was hit by non-melee for 79 points of damage.
[Wed Apr 03 22:14:26 2002] The Avatar of War hits YOU for 929 points of damage.
[Wed Apr 03 22:14:26 2002] The Avatar of War executes a FLURRY of attacks on Jrel!
[Wed Apr 03 22:14:26 2002] The Avatar of War tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Apr 03 22:14:26 2002] The Avatar of War tries to hit YOU, but YOU dodge!
[Wed Apr 03 22:14:26 2002] The Avatar of War was hit by non-melee for 79 points of damage.
[Wed Apr 03 22:14:26 2002] The Avatar of War bashes YOU for 255 points of damage.
[Wed Apr 03 22:14:26 2002] The Avatar of War was hit by non-melee for 79 points of damage.
[Wed Apr 03 22:14:26 2002] The Avatar of War hits YOU for 344 points of damage.
[Wed Apr 03 22:14:26 2002] Pain and suffering tries to strike YOU, but misses!
[Wed Apr 03 22:14:26 2002] You died.
[Wed Apr 03 22:14:26 2002] The Avatar of War was hit by non-melee for 79 points of damage.
[Wed Apr 03 22:14:26 2002] The Avatar of War hits YOU for 929 points of damage.
[Wed Apr 03 22:14:26 2002] The Avatar of War was hit by non-melee for 79 points of damage.
[Wed Apr 03 22:14:26 2002] The Avatar of War hits YOU for 299 points of damage.
[Wed Apr 03 22:14:26 2002] The Avatar of War was hit by non-melee for 79 points of damage.
[Wed Apr 03 22:14:26 2002] The Avatar of War hits YOU for 389 points of damage.
[Wed Apr 03 22:14:26 2002] The Avatar of War tries to kick YOU, but YOU parry!
[Wed Apr 03 22:14:26 2002] You have been healed for 385 points of damage.
[Wed Apr 03 22:14:27 2002] Pain and suffering tries to strike YOU, but misses!
[Wed Apr 03 22:14:27 2002] You died.
[Wed Apr 03 22:14:28 2002] Returning to home point, please wait...
That shows 2 main hands and a bash?
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Avatar of War is a bad example. His normal attack timer can trigger twice in one second.
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Also.. You died twice? Bad log.
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Was from an EQCleric heal bug thread so yea. Was best I could find from era :/.
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So rampage is a full round of melee, including offhand. Would prefer some logs to support this. Shouldn't be too hard to find.

And I'm still also assuming Flurry is only an extra mainhand round, and not a full quad (Mobs would hit 8 times at once during a flurry if that was the case).
I have never had more than 1 rampage message hitting me ever not sure if this is what you are asking for. i will try and find some old logs not very hopeful though. mainhand attack only unless it somehow adds them both into 1 hit.
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Old 03-06-2014, 05:55 AM
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Information I wouldn't mind people posting facts for though:

When getting rampaged, how many times did the mob hit you? Was it just a primary hand attack (two hits with double attack), or offhand attacks as well (Quad)?

And for Flurries, I'm pretty sure based on most information I've seen, that flurries were an additional primary hand round (including double attack).

That's currently how they are coded and it will take strong evidence to change it.
Rampage/Flurry - depends on if NPC dual wielded or not

Dual wield - chance for 4 attacks plus kick/bash
Non Dual wield - chance for 2 attacks plus kick/bash

Same for Flurry

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It does not hit multiple targets until AE Rampage in Planes of Power.

It does not require the mob to be facing the Rampage target.

It does go beyond melee range, possibly melee range x2.

These facts are set and I'm not interested in any information regarding them.

Please see my previous post for information I currently need evidence to support.
The AE Rampage that was added in Planes of Power had a range to target. There is NO range on regular Rampage, NPC can hit you anywhere in the zone. The only way to get off the Rampage list or avoid being Rampaged is to zone, memblur, or die. Camping is not possible.

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So rampage is a full round of melee, including offhand. Would prefer some logs to support this. Shouldn't be too hard to find.

And I'm still also assuming Flurry is only an extra mainhand round, and not a full quad (Mobs would hit 8 times at once during a flurry if that was the case).
10 in a round is possible with kick/bash. This is why you needed some super shit for your tanks back in the day on AoW, otherwise they'd just end up getting "one rounded" by him.
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Old 03-06-2014, 07:16 AM
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Fantastic and all, but I think Rogean is looking for evidence in era.

He raided up til the most recent few expansions as a tank. He knows how rampage works. He just wants proof IE log or screenshots from back then.
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http://www.thesteelwarrior.org/forum...ead.php?t=1679

This was posted in 2003 though, so not sure if its useful? Anyway, figured I'd throw it here just in case.
This is the best written example I've seen and mimics most of what I remember. We used the WL zone line to fix ramp tank order on Tormax.
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Old 03-06-2014, 02:09 PM
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How does a zoneline fix rampage order?

Also I thought to tormax and guards ran at like selo speed how you pull that so far
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