Miscellaneous: Summary of Bard issues

[Turbo]

Don't know that anyone made a seperate thread for it. It's broken in the same way enchanter's alliance is/was. It is still resistable at this point and may or may not result in agro either way; it used to but I haven't tried it since

[astuce999]

AE detrimental song range is too small, and mobs hit boxes are too big.

If you have a song active and you replay song over it, it overwrites it but makes it wear off first causing a brief time when song inactive. For example if selos is active and you play a different song and then you play selo`s again, it will make selos wear off and slow you down before speeding up again. This is different from the `song fades as it lands` bug.

Astuce (Astucexx until they fix my name here)

[Finawin]

AE song range reduction is intentional.

Bards shouldn't be kiting entire zones, period.

[guineapig]

What about single target DD song range?
I feel like I have to be within agro range to pull mobs with Brusco's Boastful Bellow.

Don't get me wrong, I make sure to pacify potential adds first but I literally have to run right up to the mob before I'm within range for this particular song. Was it always like this?

[astuce999]

Bellow was always fairly short range, but mobs hit boxes didn't use to be so big. So on live you could effectively bellow kite crocs in oasis at lvl 12, on here, forget it.

AE song range reduction is intentional.

Bards shouldn't be kiting entire zones, period.

AE song range reduction was only done during PoP. Why should bards suffer this nerf in classic? Even with a more traditional AE range (like it should), AE kiting would be very problematic with the mobs being able to hit (as in stun) you from very far away.

cheers,

Astuce

[Jete]

I don't know where you got that quote, but it makes me angry! I find it silly we have to suffer the consequences of classic ( like -40% xp ) and get granted none of the perks... I mean we are still trying to get invis song to work! Let alone be able to kite entire zones ( and there is no reason we shouldn't be able to ). Also, to reply to a poster wayy above this- I have never had selos drop itself to another selo. Usually it just keeps going for me- Or maybe I misunderstood you.

[Finawin]

I don't know what to tell you if you think you should have the ability to kill 100000 mobs at once.

[Deric]

I'd rather just reply to all the level 2 bards that ask me:

"can i horde kite on this server??"

"No. Enjoy! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]"

[astuce999]

Can we have an official response from the devs on this server about the AE range of detrimental songs?

I`ve had to fight the misinformation from other classes towards bards for many years on EQ, I don`t want to do it here, but an official answer as to whether it`s an oversight of applying a PoP nerf to classic, or intended.

thank you in advance,

Astuce

[Excision Rottun]

Originally Posted by Deric [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd rather just reply to all the level 2 bards that ask me:

"can i horde kite on this server??"

"No. Enjoy! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]"

Just level up till you have charm and swarm kite.

Originally Posted by astuce999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can we have an official response from the devs on this server about the AE range of detrimental songs?

I`ve had to fight the misinformation from other classes towards bards for many years on EQ, I don`t want to do it here, but an official answer as to whether it`s an oversight of applying a PoP nerf to classic, or intended.

thank you in advance,

Astuce

This...

AE song range reduction is intentional.

Bards shouldn't be kiting entire zones, period.

Was the official response.