Spells: Shaman pets are incorrectly gaining triple attack

[Dolalin]

EQshaman.com guide, capture date 24 January, 2001:

Whilst our pets are relatively low level they hit fast and double attack aswell (they never duel wield).

http://web.archive.org/web/200101242.../pet_info.html

[Izmael]

Originally Posted by Dolalin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Their skill isn't high enough to double-attack in the offhand, that's the simple answer. You need offhand double-attack to get quads.

First time I ever hear this.

It's my understand you can quad as soon as you both get DW and DA, just the chance of it is quite low, as you need to succeed the mainhand DA roll, the DW roll, and the offhand DA roll. If they are all tough rolls of like < 30%, you will rarely quad, but still quad sometimes.

Also if you filter misses, you'll probably barely ever see them in the chat window until your skill and luck gets high enough to ALSO actually LAND each of the 4 hits.

[Dolalin]

Originally Posted by Izmael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

First time I ever hear this.

It's my understand you can quad as soon as you both get DW and DA, just the chance of it is quite low, as you need to succeed the mainhand DA roll, the DW roll, and the offhand DA roll. If they are all tough rolls of like < 30%, you will rarely quad, but still quad sometimes.

Also if you filter misses, you'll probably barely ever see them in the chat window until your skill and luck gets high enough to ALSO actually LAND each of the 4 hits.

On a warrior you need a skill of at least 150 in double-attack to double-attack in the offhand. That's what gets you quads.

For pets and NPCs it might just be a function of level in the db and what skills they're assigned when. I haven't checked on eqemu.

But anyways from what I'm seeing, shammy pets never got dual-wield in era. That would logically apply to NPC shaman pets unless there was some special coding I'm unaware of (always possible).

Shaman pets on live did eventually get the ability to equip weapons (I see references to this starting in 2003), which would let them dual wield, but never in-era.

[Baler]

shaman pet's are not triple attacking.
source: 2 level 60 shaman on blue.

[Izmael]

I just parsed my monk's logs and indeed, the first time a quad got succesfully issued was shortly after my DA skill hit 150. I stand corrected..

[DMN]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

shaman pet's are not triple attacking.
source: 2 level 60 shaman on blue.

So maybe this is only a green thing? I dunno. Don't have a high level sham n ither. Bu they are either DWing or trip attacking on green, which is a bug.

[Sabin76]

Could it be a client/server timing issue? I swear I've seen my mage pet hit 5 or 6 times on rare occasion, but there seemed to be longer pauses in between than they should.

Edit: and yes, I checked that a bash/kick wasn't in there.

[DMN]

Originally Posted by Sabin76 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Could it be a client/server timing issue? I swear I've seen my mage pet hit 5 or 6 times on rare occasion, but there seemed to be longer pauses in between than they should.

Edit: and yes, I checked that a bash/kick wasn't in there.

Pretty sure the answer is ot because of the timestamps. The times of everything are based on the servers packets being sent to you.

[Sabin76]

Ok, didn't know how the client/server decided the timestamps to display.

[nilbog]

Is there any actual proof shaman pets are dual wielding in game on p99?

The code for pets is kinda jumbled. Might be somewhere else but I'm not seeing it.