Are you mortified about President Donald J. Trump?

[Crust]

The only realization I have come to is how MOST leftist don't know how to lose with grace.

Probably a lack of young sports experience. When you lose it's not the other sides fault...crying, bitching, whining just wastes time better suited to plan for the next encounter.

And how many NPC's are out there parroting the BS CNN talking points.

[Triiz]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Britain's universal healthcare sucks. Some highlights:

• A 2011 report demonstrated that the average cancer survival rate was 71.18% in the USA as compared to 54.48% in England.
• In Britain a shocking 4 million people languish on waiting lists according to official sources in a population of scarcely over 65 million
• 25% of British cardiac patients die waiting for treatment, and an investigation by a British newspaper found that delays in treatment for colon and lung cancer patients have been so long that 20% of cases were incurable by the time they finally received care
• NHS's budget has tripled since 1990
• According to the OECD Britain has the lowest number of doctors per thousand population in the advanced world

I am not defending crony capitalist system we have here, but socialism fails at medicine just like it fails at everything else.

What percentage of the population was covered by that cancer "study"? I clicked the source for that claim, it's literally 2 sentences and a chart. Not exactly credible to say the least. There are discrepancies but not nearly that large. Britain's numbers also cover 100% of the population while the U.S. numbers don't.
https://www.cdc.gov/cancer/dcpc/rese.../concord-2.htm

What is shocking about that? There are almost 30 million American's without health insurance, down from 45 million pre-Obamacare. 37% of the population is on some form of government insurance, without Medicare/Medicaid/CHIP we would probably have upwards 100 million people that couldn't afford to see a doctor.

It's a hell of a lot better to "languish on a waiting list" than to not be able to get any medical care outside of going to an emergency room and risking bankruptcy.

https://www.census.gov/library/publi...o/p60-264.html


The U.S. budget has quadrupled since 1990.
https://www.usgovernmentspending.com...al_budget_fy90

It doesn't matter if a country has 100 doctors per 1000 if you're a person that can't afford to see one.

Britain's system has a lot of problems and isn't a model for the US, but our current system straight up excludes more than 1/3 of the country if government assistance is removed from the equation and that doesn't count the people that are under insured. How is that not a failing system?

[feniin]

Originally Posted by Crust [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only realization I have come to is how MOST leftist don't know how to lose with grace.

Probably a lack of young sports experience. When you lose it's not the other sides fault...crying, bitching, whining just wastes time better suited to plan for the next encounter.

And how many NPC's are out there parroting the BS CNN talking points.

lolol. Do you forget that 2008-2016 happened? Fucking hypocrites [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by hobart [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2. Republicans are 100% tribal at this point and will side with child molesters, traitors, drug addicts, satanists, or anyone else they would otherwise hate as long as they have an "R" next to their name.

hah! Good luck finding a leftist courageous enough to put an R next to their name!

[America]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hah! Good luck finding a leftist courageous enough to put an R next to their name!

i'm a catch aren't i [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Tiax]

GOOD NORMAL THINKING PLUBLIC ONLY. I THINK THEIR SHOULD BE FEDERAL MILITARY POLICE THAT MONITORS THE DEMOCRATIC LIBERAL TRASH MEDIA AND THEIR CORRUPT FRIENDS FOR CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR SUCH THINGS AS TREASON AND A LAWLESS CRIMINAL MOUTH BEHAVIOR SUCH AS SLANDER AND MALICE.

[Tiax]

GOOD NORMAL THINKING PLUBLIC ONLY. GOOD JOB PRESIDENT TRUMP. TELL ME WHO LOVES YOU AMERICA PRESIDENT TRUMP AND VICE PRESIDENT PENCE LOVES YOU AND THE BORDER WALL LOVES YOU AND MARSHALL LAW LOVES YOU . NEXT FEDERALIZE THE NATIONAL GUARD IN ALL STATES IN AMERICA .

[Raev]

Triiz, take a second here to admire the beauty of America's health care system. Like all systems of control, it has been carefully designed so that the serfs are placed in a local maximum where we lose if we fail to comply, but also in a global minimum where there is huge net transfer of wealth to the pharmaceutical companies (Obamacare was basically written by the health care industry). It would be easy for Americans to fix our health care system, but we don't.

• What's the fix?
• Why don't we do it?

Also, the cancer survival rate was one thing I googled around for a bit. This blog post is an easy to read table representation of one of those 'sciency' papers. I'd guess that Britain is doing a bit better (or the US is doing worse) in the 2010s. Anyway, as I stated I am not defending our health care system. I just think that a true free market solution would blow socialized medicine out of the water. No one would be without health care, as the market would meet all price points (except people unwilling to work, of course, and I am not overly concerned there).

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Americans are in a real pickle!

Immigration is the one area where Democrats should concede some space. It’s okay to be concerned about the solvency of your institutions amid an onslaught of illegal and legal immigration (including asylum). Alternatively, Republicans are bad faith actors whose platform can almost entirely be proven as ineffective using examples from every other developed country.

Your best areas are enclaves at best whose success can be boiled down to:

- good climate attracting wealthy people.
- resource rich country
- too tier research and education pre-1990
- opportune timing and positioning for rebuilding the world (post WW2).
- relatively homogenous population during the most important period.

Any 1st world country able to select even 2/5 of those is either past you or passing you in QOL. There’s no excuse. America needs ranked choice, viable third parties and at the very minimum, quality education ACROSS THE COUNTRY to be able to escape bumper sticker politics.

Democrats are not the answer but Republicans are DEFINITELY not. A swing to the right now will only further calcify this trend and ensure every last drop of wealth that was created goes to your best zip codes or, more likely, overseas.

Inb4 but muhh median income!

[Teppler]

Originally Posted by Yumyums Inmahtumtums [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Americans are in a real pickle!

Immigration is the one area where Democrats should concede some space. It’s okay to be concerned about the solvency of your institutions amid an onslaught of illegal and legal immigration (including asylum). Alternatively, Republicans are bad faith actors whose platform can almost entirely be proven as ineffective using examples from every other developed country.

Your best areas are enclaves at best whose success can be boiled down to:

- good climate attracting wealthy people.
- resource rich country
- too tier research and education pre-1990
- opportune timing and positioning for rebuilding the world (post WW2).
- relatively homogenous population during the most important period.

Any 1st world country able to select even 2/5 of those is either past you or passing you in QOL. There’s no excuse. America needs ranked choice, viable third parties and at the very minimum, quality education ACROSS THE COUNTRY to be able to escape bumper sticker politics.

Democrats are not the answer but Republicans are DEFINITELY not. A swing to the right now will only further calcify this trend and ensure every last drop of wealth that was created goes to your best zip codes or, more likely, overseas.

Inb4 but muhh median income!

We have horrible horrible rot in our government. The establishment on republican and democrat side are bought out by foreigners. They will bleed us a slow death while they fund Israel from within the US and out.

You're kind of clueless of what is going on at the border. Establishment democrat elites are the decision makers for their parties. Open borders dooms demographics for anyone who desires responsible spending in government. It has nothing to do with whats right for america. It's like a checkmate move for the establishment to make that ensures their power forever, in just a number of years. They get to make more and more of these bloated bills with irresponsible spending that does stuff like sends more money to Israel. Then Israel bombs the rest of the middle east with our resources and then somehow we're back at war in the middle east fighting that skirmish. And our low/middle class wages stay stagnant because we have hordes of low class workers filtering in from the border. And tons and tons of other problems.