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Old 12-10-2020, 11:52 PM
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between SK and paladin, who can actually fight through a dungeon better? I am interested in playing an SK but my paladin right now does pretty well with lull, root, heals, and stuns to deal with those pesky casters.

i get that an SK with invis and FD available can move thru a dungeon better, but they cant deal with adds, and since they're mostly face tanking in most dungeons, downtime is probably too slow to actually fight thru a dungeon from entrance to wherever. I'd also imagine FD splitting isn't always feasible.

I'd like a melee class that can actually fight her way thru a dungeon rather than just be good at evading or FDing your way thru it. Is paladin a good pick for this?
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Old 12-11-2020, 12:38 PM
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between SK and paladin, who can actually fight through a dungeon better? I am interested in playing an SK but my paladin right now does pretty well with lull, root, heals, and stuns to deal with those pesky casters.

i get that an SK with invis and FD available can move thru a dungeon better, but they cant deal with adds, and since they're mostly face tanking in most dungeons, downtime is probably too slow to actually fight thru a dungeon from entrance to wherever. I'd also imagine FD splitting isn't always feasible.

I'd like a melee class that can actually fight her way thru a dungeon rather than just be good at evading or FDing your way thru it. Is paladin a good pick for this?
SK can dungeon crawl just fine. FD works quite well. Not sure why you think SKs can't deal with adds. They just FD to get a mob solo. Then you don't need to worry about keeping adds rooted.

You would also be suprised at how many places you can fear kite in a dungeon. You just need to use your low level short duration fear with a high level snare so the mob doesn't wander too far. You basically just rubber band the mob with the short fear in a safeish hallway. And FD is there in case you screw up, so you have plenty of opportunities to learn the pathing and safe areas.

SKs can recover pretty quickly as well once they get a lot of clickies, proc weapons, and flowing thought I and II.
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Old 12-11-2020, 02:09 PM
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SK can dungeon crawl just fine. FD works quite well. Not sure why you think SKs can't deal with adds. They just FD to get a mob solo. Then you don't need to worry about keeping adds rooted.

You would also be suprised at how many places you can fear kite in a dungeon. You just need to use your low level short duration fear with a high level snare so the mob doesn't wander too far. You basically just rubber band the mob with the short fear in a safeish hallway. And FD is there in case you screw up, so you have plenty of opportunities to learn the pathing and safe areas.

SKs can recover pretty quickly as well once they get a lot of clickies, proc weapons, and flowing thought I and II.
This guy has apparently played everquest.

Besides monk deep OP with fungi, the SK is a billion times the best solo melee. The SK can kill harder monsters than the monk can, without excessive use of expendables which change the whole program for anyone. SK uses expendables better too, because of channeling.

Paladin is fine, the lull can replace the feign death its just not as good.

Ranger is also fine, has harmony for "outdoors". But being an ogre is a big factor for solo too, you just crush monsters better and resist stun which lets you do more casting work. In reality, only rogue and warrior are really painful to solo because they have no utility spells to support themselves with.
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Old 12-11-2020, 08:14 AM
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solo and melee do not go hand in hand
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Old 12-11-2020, 08:33 AM
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Paladin dmg is a joke. SK at least has some DoTs and Pet going.

But if Ghoulbane is the weapon of choice for you, dps goes way above SK levels.
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Old 12-11-2020, 02:58 PM
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Just sayin, I haven't seen vids of pallies, sk's, or rangers soloing naggy, drusella, or emp chottal
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Old 12-11-2020, 05:25 PM
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Just sayin, I haven't seen vids of pallies, sk's, or rangers soloing naggy, drusella, or emp chottal
Because there’s a zillion monks that play this game with far more raid gear than sks have acquired. I’ll take an endgame geared ogre/troll sk over a similarly geared monk in this current state of velious against a named if consumables aren’t an option. But that’s a big if since monks have superior dps enough consumables can kill anything just like that cleric who just did general.
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Old 12-11-2020, 07:56 PM
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Because there’s a zillion monks that play this game with far more raid gear than sks have acquired. I’ll take an endgame geared ogre/troll sk over a similarly geared monk in this current state of velious against a named if consumables aren’t an option. But that’s a big if since monks have superior dps enough consumables can kill anything just like that cleric who just did general.
Didn't hear a cleric crazy solo job but that makes me psyched since clerics are my jam.

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Old 12-11-2020, 07:28 PM
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Just sayin, I haven't seen vids of pallies, sk's, or rangers soloing naggy, drusella, or emp chottal
I have seen SKs soloing WW dragons though... They may be able to do cliff golems as well.

Which videos of monks are you talking about? The only videos I've seen of monks soloing crazy stuff involve puppet strings, which is more a testament to puppet strings being broken than anything.

I'm happy to be proven wrong and enjoy melee solo videos, so post some links!
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Old 12-11-2020, 10:42 PM
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I have seen SKs soloing WW dragons though... They may be able to do cliff golems as well.

Which videos of monks are you talking about? The only videos I've seen of monks soloing crazy stuff involve puppet strings, which is more a testament to puppet strings being broken than anything.

I'm happy to be proven wrong and enjoy melee solo videos, so post some links!
The chottal one and drusella one was posted here actually. You can probably search for them easily enough.
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