Classes to avoid playing in the p99 meta?

[Jimjam]

The best class is the one you'll feel most inclined to log on and play. A level 1 warrior that doesn't progress any further than the character creation screen will never be any better than even the worst paladin.

[Lampolo]

Originally Posted by greatdane [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Whoever wrote that should be taken with a grain of salt. That quote is a severe misrepresentation of reality. The reason to consider warrior over paladin is because warriors are important for raiding while paladins aren't, so investing your time in a character that has very little place in the endgame is unappealing to most players. For general gameplay (grouping), warrior is by no means better. Way worse, really.

There's no such thing as people just "understanding how to mitigate aggro." That doesn't make the warrior problem go away. It means other group members have to do less DPS than they could, or debuff later and less efficiently. It means rogues taking aggro on every other mob because no amount of "understanding aggro" will help when their evade just happens to fail several times in a row, and this costs the healer more mana than what miniscule amount they save due to the tank having a warrior's marginally better mitigation and HP than a knight's.

As a rogue, warriors (even with proper proccing weapons) in group content don't have a hope in hell of holding aggro reliably unless they get a proc right off the bat and my evades don't fail. And that's just with an epic and a Winters Fury, which is pretty much the bottom standard for 50+ rogues. Imagine if I had a Vyemm or Vulak dagger. Assuming average rates of procs for the warrior and evasion success for the rogue, it is mathematically impossible for the warrior to hold steady aggro unless the rogue just doesn't DPS until 10-20 seconds into the fight, in which case having a warrior tank is terrible for XP/hour. That's fine on a raid boss that takes minutes to kill, but not in a chain-pulling group. The warrior only holds aggro if he procs more than statistically expected, or the rogue has no evasion fails during the fight. And it fails like 40% of the time, so...

On the other hand, when the tank is a paladin, people can just go all in from the moment the mob arrives in the camp. Debuff instantly, DPS 100% from the first second of the fight, break mezzes without concern, etc. On top of that, the paladin brings situationally useful buffs, root/stun control, emergency heals, saves a life every 72 minutes, even has the ability to help with pulling if necessary. And he's, what, 5% less tanky than the warrior outside of defensive disc? It's laughable to suggest that you're better off with a warrior tank in any content that doesn't require defensive. It's a ridiculous, nonsensical view spread by warrior mains who don't like the idea.

There's a number of elitist warrior players on P99 who work very hard to convince people that it's the ideal tank class for all aspects of the game. It's not. It's obviously the ideal tank class for raid bosses, but for literally anything else you can do in Everquest, it's the worst. Under no conceivable circumstances is being marginally tankier more important than having the ability to actually perform your job 100% of the time, i.e. holding aggro and letting other people perform to the full extent that their classes are capable. Warriors simply cannot do that unless the other players intentionally reduce their performance to the point where the warrior is a handicap, not an asset.

However, everyone thinks they're gonna be a bigshot raider on P99, so even though almost none of them actually end up in a serious raid guild, they feel weird about maining a paladin because what if some day! That's why it's one of the least played classes. For anyone who knows that they're never gonna be a raider, it's by far the best tank class to choose, especially now that shadowknights have been nerfed and it costs tons of mana for them to hold aggro, making it awkward in a chain-pulling group.

That's all you have to say?

Somebody trying real hard to justify their non-warrior tank. Lol this reads like a desperate plea to feel better about dropping 1000's hours into shit class. Just reroll alrdy man. You couldv got a lvl 60 war in the timenit took you to write that delusional wall.

[Tunabros]

Originally Posted by Aeaolena [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The top raiding guild on green

kekw

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^app denied (x4)
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[Tunabros]

Originally Posted by Chortles Snortles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

^app denied (x4)
(lol)

where do u even get the number 4 lol

when does 1 equal to 4

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jimmies rustled
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[Trelaboon]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can't imagine knights tanking flurries.

I’ve Pally tanked Flurries before, but yea, with plenty of Cleric support. It’s obviously not ideal but can be done in a pinch

[Snaggles]

There is place for any hard working player picking any class. Druids have less use in the raid scene but spot heal and charm in places we never used them for during live. Sk’s likewise a bit under used but still tank a lot of trash.

Paladins willing to quest soulfires are highly sought-after; it takes a B- raid char and pushes it to an A+. Just a matter of you want to keep requesting a dumb click sword to add to your value.

Really with free accounts most people have multiple 60’s. Easier to park for raiding or farming. More ideal for a situation.

Btw: I too have tanked a flurry with my paladin. When it’s ravaging a raid and someone says to “pick it up”, carpe diem.

[ChairmanMauzer]

Originally Posted by Lampolo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's all you have to say?

Somebody trying real hard to justify their non-warrior tank. Lol this reads like a desperate plea to feel better about dropping 1000's hours into shit class. Just reroll alrdy man. You couldv got a lvl 60 war in the timenit took you to write that delusional wall.

That's your counter argument? LOL

[Motsu]

The p99 meta is classes that abuse GCD resets and charm. So you can reverse engineer the classes that aren't meta from here.