Question about Rangers and groups

[Solist]

Take ranger.

Delete.

Make any other class.

[Keebz]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you hate pulling you might not enjoy the ranger later on.

And if you wind up liking pulling, you will be annoyed that you don't really get to do it on raids if you get that far.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Lightbringer55 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you want a different spin on it, you could look into a dex build with the steel hilted flint dagger. Seen some solid agro generation with it, but there's still the issue that you need the AC and HP to take the hits.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Steel_Hilted_Flint_Dagger

Parsing at level 60 with 255 DEX, it doesn't proc enough to out-damage even a Faygaurd Parrying Dagger/Exquisite Velium Warsword combo on XP mobs at least. Vox/Gore may be a niche use case. You might need the sister weapon from VP to make it worthwhile from a DPS perspective. Never had one so I can't speak to DPS parsing on that.

[Toxigen]

i cant imaging making a character whos only end game purpose is being a speedbump til the next warrior can get aggro

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i cant imaging making a character whos only end game purpose is being a speedbump til the next warrior can get aggro

Playing a Ranger is fine. Hybrids are typically the fun Solo/Group class people like dumping their alt DKP/Plat into. This thread isn't about attempting to raid as a ranger, it is about normal grouping.

[Tethler]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i cant imaging making a character whos only end game purpose is being a speedbump til the next warrior can get aggro

The trick is to stop at 59 so you never get weaponshield, then you're free to trueshot disc with your BFG for fun.

[Selene]

Originally Posted by Keebz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And if you wind up liking pulling, you will be annoyed that you don't really get to do it on raids if you get that far.

Is this true? Is it mostly just monks then who pull during raids? I love pulling, and tried leveling a ranger (got to 50), but had to quit cuz I really disliked relying on procs to be able to solo. Took too frequent and hard hits while trying to fight toe-to-toe. (Before anyone criticizes me for facetanking, I just didn't like fear kiting animals, or bow rotting).

[Philistine]

Originally Posted by Damyron87 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hi all, i am looking to create a new character as a ranger, i was wondering towards the higher levels 45+ will i be able to find a group? I dont mind soloing and i have a friend to duo with sometimes but dont want to be stranded not having a group. Anybody with end game experience know if this will be an issue?

Rangers are great for groups at all levels IMHO. Excellent pullers up to 60, especially outdoors. Indoors use snare and root to help control the madness.

Rangers can also serve as pretty good tanks through their 40s, and kinda lame but still satisfactory ones up until 60, though you'll probably need a cleric to heal you without slows or a slower in group in the 50s.

You can also CC - park stuff with root and your tank should move. Or, if your tank isn't paying attention, snare mobs to get them off others then park them.

You can also just DPS of course if there's already a tank, puller, and CC in group.

Swarmcaller (or better yet, Earthcaller) will add to your utility in a group. Not a reliable slow, but still a nice trick to pull out.

I'm prejudiced as I main a ranger (and am clearly a big fan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]) but to me a smart group will pick up a LFG ranger over a LFG pure tank/DPS/etc any day as the ranger can fill so many roles if a specialist leaves, and are pretty good DPS until 60 when lack of triple attack and insane raid weapons that rogs and monks get cause Rangers to fall way behind on the DPS end of things.

If you're ok with the fact that you'll never be the best at anything (except for maybe pulling outdoors) and and work to maximize your usefulness as group composition changes I'd expect you to have good luck finding groups

Very underrated clas IMHO - honestly I feel like that's half the challenge of playing one - folks aren't always aware of how much we pwn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Keebz]

Originally Posted by Selene [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is this true? Is it mostly just monks then who pull during raids?

On raids mostly, but pulling is kind of a different beast in that context.

[Philistine]

Originally Posted by Keebz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On raids mostly, but pulling is kind of a different beast in that context.

Agreed! To elaborate a bit, a lot of the big time raid zones are indoors, and snare/root won't land on raid zone trash. Also, adds can be devastating so FD is needed.