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Old 08-13-2015, 11:26 AM
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Essence of Nature off Tunare was a caster FT5 item. Dunno how classic that is though?
you need to research this - I highly doubt Ft5 or even Ft3 was a part of original Velious itemization before Luclin ( where FT and item effects took off )
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Old 08-13-2015, 11:34 AM
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Tunare info dump inc

Prior threads on Tunare's drops:
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh....php?p=1150867
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=181066
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=125800

There is conclusive evidence that the following items were in game before Luclin, including FT3 and FT5.

This is difficult to determine exactly when Tunare became fully itemized, since she died for the first time in July 2001 (8+ months post release). She only dropped 2x Necro PoG Robes and a Blade of the Swarm (which is severely underwhelming) for her difficulty. Afterlife was the second guild to kill Tunare and that wasn't until October 13, 2001; however, she does appear to be holding a whip (Braid of Golden Hair) in the pictures, but Afterlife was not nice enough to identify the drops from their kill.

If I had to guess on a date, I would say July-August 2001, shortly after Fires of Heaven's first kill, since Furor threw a shit fit about the encounter.

These items were identified November 2001+ as new items probably due to the length of time between the first, second and subsequent kills, at least according to Alla's item updates on the front page.

Golden Leaf Earring (Nov. 14, 2001) (FT3 comment from Nov. 16)
Braid of Golden Hair (Nov. 16, 2001)
Essence of Nature (Nov. 20, 2001) (Pre-Luclin posts claiming FT5)
Massive Heartwood Thorn (Nov. 20, 2001)
Sap Encrusted Branch (Nov. 20, 2001)
Petrified Heartwood Flamberge (Nov. 20, 2001)




The next Archive.org capture of Tunare is August 10, 2002, and includes the 3 remaining items not identified in the first capture.

Nature's Melody
Fist of Nature
Girdle of Living Thorns

As to Fist of Nature -- Thread specific to FoN -- earliest publicly announced drop was post-Luclin release. Thread goes into much more detail with item tables and theory of if it was actually on her drop table pre-Luclin, but the Hand-to-Hand and recommended level present conflicting information for that theory.
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Old 08-13-2015, 11:37 AM
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How it should work for this server is highest FT item is the only one that works. Different FT values stacking didn't happen until later (when?), and 2 of the same FT value stacking later than that (beyond the timeline on this server I believe, probably not until Focus Effects in Luclin).
Uh no I don't think so.
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Tunare info dump inc
<3 - was just looking up your posts
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Old 08-13-2015, 01:41 PM
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In the Trilogy client from August this is what it looks like:

Flowing Thought I
Increase Mana by 1 (L1)

Flowing Thought II
Increase Mana by 2 (L1)

Flowing Thought III
Increase Mana by 0 (L1)

Flowing Thought IV
Increase Mana by 0 (L1)

Flowing Thought V
Increase Mana by 5 (L1)

And the client only uses the highest version of flowing thought. <-- This is hardcoded
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Old 08-13-2015, 01:46 PM
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That would be such a troll if the Tunare FT3 Earring had FT3 it just generated 0 Mana...
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Old 08-13-2015, 01:55 PM
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The April 4, 2001 SPDAT file

has Flowing Thought III listed as increase mana by 3 (L1)
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Old 08-13-2015, 01:57 PM
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Okay that's what I thought... That would've been a huge mess up to have one of the FTs not actually do anything and just trick you into thinking it does
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Old 08-13-2015, 02:19 PM
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Flowing Thought I
Increase Mana by 1 (L1)

Flowing Thought II
Increase Mana by 2 (L1)

Flowing Thought III
Increase Mana by 0 (L1)

Flowing Thought IV
Increase Mana by 0 (L1)

Flowing Thought V
Increase Mana by 5 (L1)
^^

Thats from the August 22, 2001 spdat.
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Old 08-13-2015, 02:33 PM
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So at the very least it seems she shouldnt be dropping much of anything until we hit 3 months before 'Luclin' release on our time line

Those items she drops were most likely tuned for the Luclin expansion ( FT much more important as fights last even longer ) so I dunno her loot table doesnt really seem to fit our classic server as none of those items really ever existed on any classic timeline nor were they ever farmed like they probably will be here

something to consider- im sure im of the minority opinion on this
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