Dream Group

[turbosilk]

Originally Posted by Bockscar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cleric
Enchanter
Rogue
Magician
Monk
SK/Paladin

Much prefer SK pre-49, paladin with one stun spell isn't very special. If P99 had correctly classic mob low-health runaway speed, I'd prefer SK at all levels, but alas that's not the case so snare is irrelevant even in dungeons because mobs have reduced movement speed from the moment they begin running. Back in the day, it was crucial to have snare in the group because there was like a 5% buffer between the runaway point and the slowdown point where mobs would run at full speed, often with SoW. Wish this would get fixed.

I would never put enchanter and shaman in the same group if we're theorycrafting the dream setup. Way too much overlap and you shouldn't need a second healer when you have a cleric with Clarity, good CC, and optimal DPS to make fights ultra-fast. Stat buffs alone aren't particularly great, and there's no meaningful difference between shm and enc slow pre-raid.

Wizard has no place in any optimized group. It's literally the worst class in the game for grouping. No optimized group should ever need to evac, and magicians are better at bursting mobs down anyway. Wizard is a legitimately terrible class for group content. The burst DPS isn't even significantly higher than, say, a necro nuking and using a hasted rogue pet.

SK/Pally can't compete with a warrior if you want to do big boy group mobs.

[DMN]

Originally Posted by turbosilk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

SK/Pally can't compete with a warrior if you want to do big boy group mobs.

If you absolutely need a warrior to tank, you are probably going to need multiple clerics to keep him up. You won't be doing those sorts of mobs with a 6-man. Even if you could you'd have to wait forever between kill for the cleric to get back to FM, making it far from a "dream" group.

[NPC]

Gear matters-
Perhaps the juiciest DPS

Warrior- dual wielding SoD's, pulling, tank
Enchanter- C2, charm pet fungi stafff, mana robe/mana stone
Bard- pulling, mana song, off tank
Cleric- CH, fungi tunic, mana stone
Wizard- DPS, mana robe/mana stone w/ epic + fungi staff
Wizard- DPS, mana robe/mana stone w/ epic + fungi staff

Warrior dualing wielding SoD's wizards can throw biggest nukes an not worry about agro at all. Wizards can be devastating if you have a tank with godly taunting, the problem is they need insanely epic gear to be that good with steady DPS, without it they are meh.
Mana stone old world obviously, mana robe for the win.

[Zipity]

Mage mage mage necro ench cleric is my all caster group

[turbosilk]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you absolutely need a warrior to tank, you are probably going to need multiple clerics to keep him up. You won't be doing those sorts of mobs with a 6-man. Even if you could you'd have to wait forever between kill for the cleric to get back to FM, making it far from a "dream" group.

Sorry you don't understand dream groups and what can actually be done with a dream group.

[DMN]

Originally Posted by turbosilk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sorry you don't understand dream groups and what can actually be done with a dream group.

Well, i don't know about your dream group, but my dream group sure the hell wants to kill more than 1 mob every 10-15 minutes.

[OuterChimp]

Originally Posted by HalflingSpergand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If u go out somewhere for a picnic do

Slice of honey wheat bread
1 slice of swiss cheese
Mayo
1 slices of cheeseloaf
Mayo
1 slice of cheeseloaf
Mustard
1slice of cheeseloaf
Slice of Honey wheat bread

That way the group wont get soggy (unless thats what ur into)

+1