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Old 09-07-2019, 09:39 PM
Ligma Ligma is offline
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Monks have a higher dodge cap than warriors so with high end raid gear they can tank fine as long as defensive isn't needed. This was exhibited during luclin where monks could easily tank more than half of VT bosses since they couldn't be one rounded and the fights were too long for defensive to matter. Hence, the nerf.

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. And I've never heard of a monk soloing a WW dragon or even an ice burrower like any epic druid can manage
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Old 09-08-2019, 03:59 AM
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A best in slot monk can tank any mob in the game if it's slowed.. fist of nature and gharns generates a fuck load of agro. Aikons has emergency tanked more than once.
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Old 09-08-2019, 04:05 AM
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Old 09-08-2019, 08:17 AM
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There is nothing that can match a 35% damage reduction for 3 minutes that is on a 10 minute cool down. It's so stupidly out of character for how discs work for every other class that it really makes me wonder WTF Verant/Sony was thinking... It doesn't make sense how out of line it is with every other Disc even in the slightest.

EDIT: Add to that that SK and Pal dont get it and it REALLY makes no sense
I mean it makes a lot of sense if you designed a game where the main tank is not the main tank and all you have to do is add 1 disc to make it the quintessential main tank that it was intended to be when they designed the class.
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Old 09-09-2019, 01:56 AM
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Monks have a higher dodge cap than warriors so with high end raid gear they can tank fine as long as defensive isn't needed. This was exhibited during luclin where monks could easily tank more than half of VT bosses since they couldn't be one rounded and the fights were too long for defensive to matter. Hence, the nerf.

https://youtu.be/AuXyehAuWss
Thanks for the explanation re VT and link - enjoyed watching it. Kelz is truly a beast.
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Old 09-09-2019, 03:07 AM
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A 60 warrior in Kunark gear will still tank better than a 60 monk with velious BiS, because /disc defensive.

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Old 09-09-2019, 03:18 AM
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A 60 warrior in Kunark gear will still tank better than a 60 monk with velious BiS, because /disc defensive.

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'Kunark gear' is real loose. Also depends on target. We've seen 32k dragons disolve in under a minute. Gone in seconds. I bet a stonestance velious BiS monk outperforms a cookie-cutter Kunark war under such conditions. Of course in such a situation whosoever tanks is largely unimportant, let alone being 'the better tank'.
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Old 09-09-2019, 03:31 AM
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Stonestance only lasts 12 seconds.

Evasive / Defensive would last the whole fight.

Warriors also get a riposte disc for 9 seconds and a dodge disc for the same. 100% mitigation.
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Old 09-09-2019, 03:48 AM
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Stonestance only lasts 12 seconds.

Evasive / Defensive would last the whole fight.

Warriors also get a riposte disc for 9 seconds and a dodge disc for the same. 100% mitigation.
I think you'll find on 10 years of velious, against 32k dragons 12 seconds is the whole foght, darling.

You raise a good point about deftdance, weaponshield, furious and rogues don't ever use anything other than dps disc though.
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