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[ScaringChildren]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ok multiple choice: which answer best describes Marxism?

a. individualism
b. collectivism
c. mountain dew baja blast

So all Leftists are Marxists?

Is this really your argument? lol

So you think all Leftists are Collectivists.

Guess what Nazism is? Right wing collectivism.

So by your logic, all Leftists are Nazis.

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by ScaringChildren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did you even watch the clip?

Yes. He said he doesn't agree with Republican positions. And doesn't want corporations to regulate speech (A Democratic and Republican position).

I think -- using my familiarity with politics and the limited exposure I've had with the guy -- that he is a libertarian. He is only left in the sense that he's not authoritarian -- but that is a common rightwing position: Rand Paul, Alex Jones etc.

Pretty sure he believes in private property, individual "economic freedom", shit like that.

[ScaringChildren]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes. He said he doesn't agree with Republican positions. And doesn't want corporations to regulate speech (A Democratic and Republican position).

I think -- using my familiarity with politics and the limited exposure I've had with the guy -- that he is a libertarian. He is only left in the sense that he's not authoritarian -- but that is a common rightwing position: Rand Paul, Alex Jones etc.

Pretty sure he believes in private property, individual "economic freedom", shit like that.

Leftists believe in private property and economic freedom.

Not all Leftists are Socialists or Communists.

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by ScaringChildren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So all Leftists are Marxists?

Is this really your argument? lol

So you think all Leftists are Collectivists.

Guess what Nazism is? Right wing collectivism.

So by your logic, all Leftists are Nazis.

big, if true

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by ScaringChildren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Leftists believe in private property and economic freedom.

Not all Leftists are Socialists or Communists.

hippity hoppity
abolish private property

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by ScaringChildren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Leftists believe in private property and economic freedom.

Not all Leftists are Socialists or Communists.

Economic Freedom is a rightwing idea:

economic freedom

The freedom to prosper within a country without intervention from a government or economic authority. Individuals are free to secure and protect his/her human resources, labor and private property. Economic freedom is common in capitalist economies and must incorporate other civil liberties to be deemed as truly free.

Read more: http://www.businessdictionary.com/de...c-freedom.html

You don't have to want to abolish private property to be a leftest...but I would say its pretty obvious that the left curves the power of private ownership of "property" where as the right is more likely to defend it.

[ScaringChildren]

You're both individualist, liberal, leftists who support a capitalist system.

Sorry, guys. But you really shouldn't hate yourselves.

[ScaringChildren]

Nice quote, you expect me to believe leftists want the government to stomp on people for trying to open a business or buy land?

Maybe in San Francisco, but the majority of the Left aren't completely insane.

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by ScaringChildren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nice quote, you expect me to believe leftists want the government to stomp on people for trying to open a business or buy land?

Maybe in San Francisco, but the majority of the Left aren't completely insane.

ya private ownership isn't a leftwing economic idea. you're describing market liberalism and shrieking about Commies. its both confusing and arousing

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by ScaringChildren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nice quote, you expect me to believe leftists want the government to stomp on people for trying to open a business or buy land?

Maybe in San Francisco, but the majority of the Left aren't completely insane.

Well on the business I have no problems with that...but buying shitloads of land and then charging people "rent" maybe should be looked at. At least, maybe in the misty future. You don't get to build human civilization from the ground up, you have to work with what we got. So eliminating land barons is probably not in the cards any time soon.