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Old 05-24-2016, 09:45 AM
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This discussion has been far to riveting to let slide to the wastes of page 2, therefore main it to you the following.

Your argument hinges on the assumption that something cannot come from nothing, "absolute zero" as you call it. How do we know that absolute zero ever has or ever will exist? How do we know that rather than spring from absolute zero, the stuff you wonder about sprang from "infinitely close to zero" or a bit more instead? How much "absolute zero" have you actually observed?

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Old 05-24-2016, 11:00 AM
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This discussion has been far to riveting to let slide to the wastes of page 2, therefore main it to you the following.

Your argument hinges on the assumption that something cannot come from nothing, "absolute zero" as you call it. How do we know that absolute zero ever has or ever will exist? How do we know that rather than spring from absolute zero, the stuff you wonder about sprang from "infinitely close to zero" or a bit more instead? How much "absolute zero" have you actually observed?

I walked into a door this morning and these are the enlightened question delivered unto me in my delirium.
Mar 22, 2013 - In our universe, even a dark, empty void of space, absent of all particles, is still something. "It has a topology, it has a shape, it's a physical object," philosopher Jim Holt said during the museum's annual Isaac Asimov Memorial Debate, which this year was focused on the topic of "The Existence of Nothing."

It is impossible for man to fathom "nothingness" we have never experienced it, and if we could somehow identify nothingness wouldn't the mere fact of its existence make it "something?" Would that something then need a source ?

/continue circular discussion
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Old 05-24-2016, 08:34 PM
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boiled down to a priori and ex nihilo....Macbeth deals with this.
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