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Old 02-18-2019, 03:41 AM
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Old 02-18-2019, 05:54 AM
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Congress Sells Out Again

After spending the last 10 years debating border security—the last two of which were under unified GOP control—and then engaging in a 35-day shutdown the best Congress could muster this week was a 1,169 page bill that does nothing more than sustain the problem.

The fix was in from the start. Democrats entered negotiations determined not to give an inch to President Trump’s policy priorities, particularly on the wall. They were matched with Republicans who largely agreed with them. Senators Richard Shelby (R-Ala.), Shelley Moore Capito (R-W.Va.), Roy Blunt (R-Mo.), and John Hoeven (R-N.D.) made up Team GOP and of those names, the latter are three already on record supporting amnesty. Hoeven, in fact, was the lead sponsor of the Senate’s 2013 Gang of Eight amnesty proposal.

The Democrats, it seems, did not have to put up much of a fight on the wall, or, for that matter, on much else. Funding for 55 miles of fencing was included in the legislation—but paid for with $1.4 billion, less than the $1.6 billion Democrats were originally offering.

The Washington Post made clear the type of hardball Republicans were willing to play:

An emboldened House Appropriations Committee Chairwoman Nita M. Lowey (D-N.Y.), a Pelosi confidante, took a page from her friend’s playbook of driving a tough bargain: She walked into the room and surprised her Senate counterparts by lowering the offer to $1.375 billion.

Shelby accepted without a fight.
Let's talk about FACTS AND LOGIC for a minute here.

Could it be, that there simply is no reason to believe a wall is going to have a notable impact on illegal immigration or crime committed by immigrants?

Any facts or logic at all there besides: "Welp, walls keep people out."

How about the fact that the vast majority of immigrants illegally here didn't cross the boarder illegally? They overstayed their visas or enter based on asylum right? Well be seeing quite a few of them soon from Venezuela I'm guessing -- since we insist on being so fucking involved.

I have a radical idea here. Maybe this is not some globalist conspiracy to end America. Maybe these guys just don't think it matters because all the evidence points to that conclusion.

So Republicans, bare with me now, just pretend to think the wall is a good idea and that their base is correct. This allows them to be popular while they do other stuff they actually care about. Do you really think Mitch -- I married an Asian Immigrant -- McConnell sees eye to eye with his red neck base?

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Let's just pretend there is no problem. It's not a big issue for wages, crime, or drugs. None of those things are greatly impacted by additional walls.

What would you populist Republicans focus on next? Maybe you should start coming up with something.
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Old 02-18-2019, 06:04 AM
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Let's talk about FACTS AND LOGIC for a minute here.

Could it be, that there simply is no reason to believe a wall is going to have a notable impact on illegal immigration or crime committed by immigrants?

Any facts or logic all there besides "Welp, walls keep people out."

How about the fact that the vast majority of immigrants illegally here didn't cross the boarder illegally? They overstayed their visas or enter based on asylum right? Well be seeing quite a few of them soon from Venezuela I'm guessing -- since we insist on being so fucking involved.

I have a radical idea here. Maybe this is not some globalist conspiracy to end America. Maybe these guys just don't think it matters because all the evidence points to that conclusion.

So Republicans, bare with me now, just pretend to think the wall is a good idea and that their base is correct. This allows them to be popular while they do other stuff they actually care about. Do you really think Mitch -- I married an Asian Immigrant -- McConnell sees eye to eye with his red neck base?

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Let's just pretend there is no problem. It's not a big issue for wages, crime, or drugs. None of those things are greatly impacted by walls.

What would you populist Republicans focus on next? Maybe you should start coming up with something.
Now THIS is an aesthetically appealing post. The spacing. The gif. Too bad I didn't read it because it's commie garbage
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Old 02-18-2019, 06:50 AM
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If the wall-fence-barrier ever managed to get built, after being deemed largely ineffective, the next proposal would be...
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Old 02-18-2019, 08:56 AM
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What would you populist Republicans focus on next? Maybe you should start coming up with something.
Not a damn thing.

Get up and go to work, does that change?

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Old 02-18-2019, 09:03 AM
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Old 02-18-2019, 09:44 AM
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Let's talk about FACTS AND LOGIC for a minute here.

Could it be, that there simply is no reason to believe a wall is going to have a notable impact on illegal immigration or crime committed by immigrants?

Any facts or logic at all there besides: "Welp, walls keep people out."

How about the fact that the vast majority of immigrants illegally here didn't cross the boarder illegally? They overstayed their visas or enter based on asylum right?
Jesus, this tired argument again...

1) Overstayed Visas only account for half

2) We can find those who overstay their visas
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Old 02-18-2019, 09:47 AM
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In retrospect, it’s unsurprising that a lot of New Atheism devolved into reactionary, antifeminist, and even white supremacist thought, because it was never really about the things it claimed to be about. The dominant affect of New Atheism wasn’t humility, or reflexivity, or curiosity, all the things one truly needs to improve intellectually. It was smugness.
No, these atheists tell you straight up:

The new far left regressives are fundamentalists with a dogmatic ideology that resembles religion.

That's why.

But go ahead and listen to idiots who GUESS why a lot of Atheists have turned on the far left...
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Old 02-18-2019, 11:05 AM
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No, these atheists tell you straight up:

The new far left regressives are fundamentalists with a dogmatic ideology that resembles religion.

That's why.

But go ahead and listen to idiots who GUESS why a lot of Atheists have turned on the far left...
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Old 02-18-2019, 11:10 AM
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Today's far left are almost identical to how the religious right acted in the 80s and the 90s.

It's your time to be the puritanical, moral busy-bodies who think of everything in terms of black and white.

The far left acts like a religious cult, who doesn't tolerate dissent or accept nuance.

Sorry you don't realize this.

There are famous Leftists who get death threats because they don't outright claim that they hate Trump.

That's what you guys are now.
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