Consider Project 2002

[apio]

They also get a lot of info from TAKP which is another PoP server, however TAKP has eqMac data dumps which is a lot more accurate than PEQ. TAKP is taking the time to parse out the eqMac data and merge it with PEQ. So p2002 can either wait for TAKP to release content which they merge into their data or just use PEQ data and hope its accurate.

This isn't true for P2002. Although we share our roots with PEQ and TAK, each server has it's own independent database at this point. Database work makes up the majority of the work that goes into developing an expansion, which is also the explanation for how we can develop content "so quickly".

[Wharhog]

Originally Posted by Lorian [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Out of curiosiry, how come that the p2002 team is able to release the expansions so quickly? Do they already have the code? They are not needing to reverse engineer like you guys have done?

Content development like Haynar said is completely seperate from code development.


We have content developers who put in 30-40 hours a week on content development alone.

We have a decent database from Cavedude/Robregen's collects from AK (We use AK collects not PEQ) as fas as mob spawnpoints go......then essentially we have to create the correct roamgrids, fix NPC pathing in dungeons.....add all the missing npcs......fix stats of all the mobs. Then do loot for each mob. (we have PEQ's loot tables.....that have to be completely scrapped and redone)

Then we go onto live EQ and parse zones(that have not been revamped) for roughly 100 clears(we have alvl 100 toon so clearing zones takes a very short amount of time) to get the correct spawngroup information and live-like roamers in dungeons. Apio is the man when it comes to this!

But like P99....when you release a new expansion there will be bugs. Check back on these forum archives when Kunark came out...they had plenty. But they crushed them and that is why the product you see now on P99 is very high quality. We plan on bug crushing the entire time we are developing Velious. This entire thing is a learning process for us, we have made our notes and are getting more efficient at what we do so we can reach our goals of releasing cleaner content for each expansion.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Had you left out the part about the devs wasting their time and the amount of time it takes them to complete content I dont think anyone would care. Saying you don't understand why they left multiple hotbars in and took the compass out is different than calling them out on what they spend their time working on.

Do you get upset every time someone brings up that this server has been stuck in Kunark for 4+ years? Cause that's like an hourly occurrence around here.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do you get upset every time someone brings up that this server has been stuck in Kunark for 4+ years? Cause that's like an hourly occurrence around here.

Its completely legitimate to raise that point. It has led to a lot of issues on both servers. What I'm saying is, there is a difference between saying "we've been in Kunark for four years...not classic", and "we wouldn't be stuck in Kunark for the last four years if the devs didn't waste time on stuff no one cares about". Get what I'm saying? Not saying there aren't any negative aspects to p99, or that they can't be commented on.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its completely legitimate to raise that point. It has led to a lot of issues on both servers. What I'm saying is, there is a difference between saying "we've been in Kunark for four years...not classic", and "we wouldn't be stuck in Kunark for the last four years if the devs didn't waste time on stuff no one cares about". Get what I'm saying? Not saying there aren't any negative aspects to p99, or that they can't be commented on.

Even if the devs work on totally separate areas, the time it took Rogean to add "Compass has been removed" to the patch notes was too much wasted time for that change imo. It just seems like their priorities have been really messed up for a while as the population has patiently awaited Velious for years. We kept being told it takes a while to do such a large expansion.

The devs over on P2002 seem motivated to put effort into their server's content and it will be interesting to see if it really does take 5 years to finish Velious. I suspect the P99 excuse of "Velious is big and it takes a while to get it right" will be exposed as just that: an excuse.

[LoliPops]

Says the guy who records poorly edited videos of his Everquest character walking around Oasis to Final Fantasy Tactics music?

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[Ezalor]

Originally Posted by LoliPops [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Says the guy who records poorly edited videos of his Everquest character walking around Oasis to Final Fantasy Tactics music?

Says the guy who has posted 45 times on an everquest forum today alone.

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Originally Posted by LoliPops

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[Sorkail]

Originally Posted by DeathWalking [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually, dont PM me because I probably wont see it. Got pixels to get on the other server.

P2002 forums: http://p2002.com/forums/

P2002 game account creation: http://p2002.com/#/ (once youre logged in with your forum acount)

PC/Mac client download links: http://www.rerolled.org/showthread.p...=1#post1017027

Got the PC client from rerolled, but try to open/extract and it says invalid/empty. Any advice?

[LoliPops]

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[Ezalor]

Originally Posted by LoliPops [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Says the guy who records poorly edited videos of his Everquest character walking around Oasis to Final Fantasy Tactics music?

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