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Old 09-10-2022, 01:25 PM
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how can we exist with russians though? They are all nazis and murders and their leader is literally the re-encarate of adolph hitler, so I dont see how we can just sit there after they murdered 800,000 innocent people?

Makes no sense to me. Like was all that rhetoric, just rhetoric to sound the drums of war to invest in lockhead and transfer wealth, and then after its all over the bad guys get to just "be nazis"?

While we tax payers give tons of money to the same military organizations that helped burn ukraine to the ground, to re-build it?
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Old 09-10-2022, 01:30 PM
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Not to mention how many euro's he is going to kill this winter with the norad shut down?
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Old 09-10-2022, 01:32 PM
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I don't demonize the Russians like the average Pro-Ukrainian does.

Geopolitics are messy and I don't blame the average Russian for invading Ukraine.

Russians are just different. If you're capable of destroying them, they'll assume you will, no matter how many times you try to convince them that you won't.

Can you blame them? The West tries to conquer them every 50 years or so. I wouldn't trust us either.

In a perfect world, I wouldn't want NATO countries bordering Russia, but unfortunately Russia's style of diplomacy with its neighbors is "be my friend or I smash you".

Not gonna win a lot of friends like that.
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Old 09-10-2022, 01:40 PM
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Shame the choice is "be my friend or a smash you" or "smash them or you cant be our friend"

I do forget our ability to forget. Like all the rhetoric yeah, sure. All the dead bodies, ok. All the ruined lives, not a big deal. "It's over, and we can go back to the status quo, if we dont demand accountability."

That's the way its been my whole life, and I cant believe that it still surprises me today.
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Old 09-10-2022, 01:42 PM
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Like look at the left, they let bush kill a million people for a vendetta, and now they think he's adorable cute.
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Old 09-10-2022, 01:44 PM
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The world is a stupid place.

That's all I can chaulk it up to.

I agree with you, I just don't have a good answer.
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Old 09-10-2022, 01:45 PM
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My least favorite thing about humanity is how a small number of it can survive, and then for that small number to feel like they are "in charge".
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Old 09-10-2022, 01:54 PM
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Unfortunately, it's human nature. There are pros and cons to it.

I'm of the opinion that we can't stop it, but we need to learn how to control it or deal with it.

There will always be corrupt, power hungry, greedy people.

Unfortunately, the vast majority of humanity just want to eat, poop, and have sex (hell yeah) and don't feel the need to control others. So we let the psychopaths do that because, hey they seem like they enjoy it. They must be good at it, right? I don't want to do that. I'm busy over here eating, pooping, and having sex.
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Old 09-10-2022, 01:56 PM
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human nature =

1. if god created us: a simple danger to avoid that satan is abusing
2. if aliens created us: an argument for our deletion
3. if we're random life on a mud ball: a sad reality that we will genocide ourselves to replace us with something better one day.
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Old 09-10-2022, 01:58 PM
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I have a feeling future AI won't like us much...
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