Game Mechanics: charm = see invis?

[nilbog]

An npc that doesn't normally see invisible.. may gain the ability to see invisible after it is charmed for a pet and released. I remember this producing random see invis mobs... but I didn't play an enchanter or bard.

Discuss.

Am I making this up?

Did a little research and came across a couple of quotes which leads me to believe there is some merit.

NOW THEN on to Pandos Flintside in West Freeport, you will be kos to him.
- he cannot see invis.
- if he HAS BEEN charmed, then he will be able to see invis, so that is why some times he can see invis, but he should not normally be able to do so.

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=611

Charming: Find a pet. Again this should be away from halls, because it will be perma-see invis after you do this. Be sure nothing else near it can aggro either by just choosing a secluded mob or by using Wake of Tranquility on its friends. Cast Rapture on the thing nearest to you. Cast Tash. Wait a maximum of 10 seconds and then cast Command of Druzzil. Immediately after charming, re-paci everything around it if there is anything.

http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?zone=92

[Hasbinbad]

That..explains..a..lot.

[Finawin]

I'm not a fan of recreating bugs for the sake of being era accurate :\

[nilbog]

I am.

[Malrubius]

Dang - you mean all those times on live that I cast See Invis on charmed guards and then zoned...I didn't need to cast See Invis? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Finawin]

This is just going to promote a lot of griefing, is my point.

Remember charming moving mobs?

[nilbog]

Yep I sure do. I remember people training me on live, too. :P

If this was a passive feature of live that was included through the scope of our project, we should fix it.

Moving charmed npcs was not.. and we fixed it.

See my point?

[Jete]

Maybe we should make bards able to kite entire zones before we focus on silly see invis charm..... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by Jete [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe we should make bards able to kite entire zones before we focus on silly see invis charm..... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you trying to derail my thread sir? Post specifics about what you want fixed in a game mechanics thread with clear evidence such as I have done above.

[Finawin]

I don't specifically remember this always being the case and I played a Cleric/Enchanter combo through Live.

I think it was only some mobs in some places past a certain era.