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[Patriam1066]

UBI is needed. That requires an honest debate about immigration and the 14th amendment. GDP growth hasn’t really translated to GDP per capita growth for the average American. In other words, arguments for immigration, especially at current levels, are specious. Only 62% of Americans work. That is partially a result of an aging population, but without immigration 3.9% unemployment would translate into rising wages. You guys fuck yourselves by being permissive on immigration. Automation will hurt industry more than free trade but a more competitive labor market would absolute help he average person without a college degree

[DinoTriz]

Originally Posted by Irulan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hmmmm. The loss of innocence. I must look up the etymology of innocence one day.

empathy(variable) isn't good or bad. It just is. It has facets or properties. Same with psychopathy.

Etymology will destroy us as well.

[Irulan]

Those places that were experimenting with UBI are rolling it back, no? I don't want UBI, just a promise in writing that I won't be slowly tortured to death.

Etymology makes u crazy. It's a dangerous drug.

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by Irulan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Those places that were experimenting with UBI are rolling it back, no? I don't want UBI, just a promise in writing that I won't be slowly tortured to death.

Etymology makes u crazy. It's a dangerous drug.

Well who needs UBI in Denmark?

It's kind of retarded. They already have very little inequality problems.

UBI is a way for a Liberal Market Economy like ours to redistribute wealth to ordinary people without changing the whole system of laws radically. It's not like we have big institutionalized unions here...are we supposed to make those? It's not like we "lock-in" capital to prevent rapid short-termism like they do there...the list goes on and on

It is truly daunting to try to copy what Denmark or other socialist countries have done. UBI is actually pretty damn simple and easy to execute.

Edit: keep in mind -- it didn't crash the economy...they just decided it wasn't worth it.

[zodium]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well who needs UBI in Denmark?

It's kind of retarded. They already have very little inequality problems.

UBI is a way for a Liberal Market Economy like ours to redistribute wealth to ordinary people without changing the whole system of laws radically. It's not like we have big institutionalized unions here...are we supposed to make those? It's not like we "lock-in" capital to prevent rapid short-termism like they do there...the list goes on and on

It is truly daunting to try to copy what Denmark or other socialist countries have done. UBI is actually pretty damn simple and easy to execute.

Edit: keep in mind -- it didn't crash the economy...they just decided it wasn't worth it.

denmark doesn't have UBI and has never tried UBI lol

you're the worst poster

[zodium]

most americans across the whole left-right spectrum would have their minds totally blown by how any given nordic country actually works. i swear it's like the dumber americans all think it's narnia over here or something lmao

[JurisDictum]

I don't what do you guys think would help people more...the bullshit welfare system we have, or giving every adult citizen $5,500? I think is pretty obvious.

We could do this by essentially getting rid of welfare and replacing it with UBI and we would save money.

Edit: We can seriously afford to give everyone quite a bit more than 600 a month...I'm just saying right now, for less money that stupid programs like foodstamps, bang 600 a month for every citizen.

[zodium]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't what do you guys think would help people more...the bullshit welfare system we have, or giving every adult citizen $5,500? I think is pretty obvious.

We could do this by essentially getting rid of welfare and replacing it with UBI and we would save money.

your understanding of how welfare works is facile to the point of absolute meaninglessness. its not a fucking menu item you pick off and have your policy chef cook up for you so you can try how UBI tastes like, there're fractal onion-layers of consensus building cultural machinery at work we've spent longer time developing than the united states has existed.

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by holesum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did he type this? I might consider preliminary skimming it if someone else can vet

i don't think so. last i knew he was danish. skim says american written.

let's naturalize him anyway. male but might be blonde?

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by zodium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

denmark doesn't have UBI and has never tried UBI lol

you're the worst poster

It was Finland

No gives a fuck dude. You'll kind of the same to us.