Approaching peak Orwell

[DoodyLich666]

It definitely does seem like we seem to be headed toward a brave new world/1984 hybrid. It’s some weird shit.

[Secrets]

"Black Lives Matter" is a valid statement. It's something everyone can agree on. It doesn't mean they are superior to other lives, nor lesser than others. It means you treat one person of a specific peripheral construct (race) as the same as another peripheral construct.

Anyone arguing anything other than that (ie; All Lives Matter, Blue Lives Matter, etc.) means that you support the systematic destruction of a particular group of people that you visually see as inferior based on <attribute here>. You can't say "All Lives Matter" and then kill the fly that accidentally landed on your monitor that's 'annoying you' - the fly has a life too. Bedbugs? Yup, can't kill those, as all lives matter. Those attracted to children? Yeah, can't treat them any different. 'All Lives Matter', right?

Cops are not a race. They're a profession you pick much later in life. You can't look at a cop out of the womb and say "Yeah, this dude's gonna be a cop."

They are a social construct, not one based on your sense of vision. They are based on emotion to a society founded on rules. Society once existed without officers, laws, and political biases. The only thing that hasn't changed is that black individuals are black and still systematically oppressed for centuries.

So instead of being racist, sexist, or whatever -ist, how about propping up the people you are close to and know need help, regardless of the way they were born? After all, we can't judge books by their cover.

Actions speak louder than sitting here on this EverQuest forum saying about how you'll do something instead of actually getting involved and doing your part to make sure it ends.

I personally took it upon myself on multiple occasions and sat with people one-on-one that I care about, and helped them get on their feet, expecting nothing in return. Can you say you've done the same, or have you just posted on message boards and social media about how 'people need to do it' - well, guess what, you are a person. Stop preaching to the choir and start making better choices.

[Vanin]

So ALM is racist if we don't subtract bugs? As someone who has found ants to be fascinating their whole life I find this to be offensive.

[GinnasP99]

Ants are cool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVI8YIpdnJ0

[Jimjam]

BLM should just take ownership of the phrase “All Lives Matter”. Flip reverse it so ‘ALM’ is used to confirm that ‘yes, alm so bl indeed do m’.

[Lojik]

Originally Posted by Secrets [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"Black Lives Matter" is a valid statement. It's something everyone can agree on. It doesn't mean they are superior to other lives, nor lesser than others. It means you treat one person of a specific peripheral construct (race) as the same as another peripheral construct.

Anyone arguing anything other than that (ie; All Lives Matter, Blue Lives Matter, etc.) means that you support the systematic destruction of a particular group of people that you visually see as inferior based on <attribute here>. You can't say "All Lives Matter" and then kill the fly that accidentally landed on your monitor that's 'annoying you' - the fly has a life too. Bedbugs? Yup, can't kill those, as all lives matter. Those attracted to children? Yeah, can't treat them any different. 'All Lives Matter', right?

Cops are not a race. They're a profession you pick much later in life. You can't look at a cop out of the womb and say "Yeah, this dude's gonna be a cop."

They are a social construct, not one based on your sense of vision. They are based on emotion to a society founded on rules. Society once existed without officers, laws, and political biases. The only thing that hasn't changed is that black individuals are black and still systematically oppressed for centuries.

So instead of being racist, sexist, or whatever -ist, how about propping up the people you are close to and know need help, regardless of the way they were born? After all, we can't judge books by their cover.

Actions speak louder than sitting here on this EverQuest forum saying about how you'll do something instead of actually getting involved and doing your part to make sure it ends.

I personally took it upon myself on multiple occasions and sat with people one-on-one that I care about, and helped them get on their feet, expecting nothing in return. Can you say you've done the same, or have you just posted on message boards and social media about how 'people need to do it' - well, guess what, you are a person. Stop preaching to the choir and start making better choices.

Humans will by and large tend to associate and agree with people they feel are similar to them, and the easiest way to associate is by looks. Skin color stands out the most, so most people of a certain race will tend to sympathize with a message coming from people of the same race. We do it with lots of things besides race too, by profession, hobby, where you're from, and what political party you support. That's why good salesmen will try and find a way to "relate" to you by trying to find a connection (either real or fake.) In politics people will sympathize more with their respective voter base (or who they think is their voter base.) If you're liberal and I talk about uneducated racist white people, you're more likely to want to view them with disdain rather than sympathy, while viewing poor racist black people as simply misguided. The right does this too, claiming poor black people are thugs and all the black communitys problems are their own doing, which is false. I think a fear a lot of americans have with the BLM movement is that these different expectations are going to be upheld as the mainstream, acceptable view. If you look just at the NFL, Drew Brees said "I will never agree with someone kneeling for the flag." His own team mates called him out instantly, stopped following him on IG or whatever. Probably like 1/2 the leagues players specifically called him out. Meanwhile DeSean Jackson posts "hitler was right" with some fake hitler quotes, and it took probably at least a day for any current player to call him out. I think maybe 5-10 players have called him out specifically at all, most people just saying "we can't accept any sort of hate" without specifying the incident at all. They're basically "all lives mattering" this situation, it's a joke. You can pretty easily say that "they don't represent the majority of the BLM movement" which is true, and that leads to my next point.

BLM is, at the moment, a pretty decentralized movement. That can be good for the movement but also bad. In todays political climate if there's a clear leader then it's easy to point to a figurehead and say "those are the policies this group supports." BLM doesn't really have this, except for when ultra conservaties will point to their "leaders" being trained marxists or something. The "movement" is difficult to criticize at the moment, because it's not really clear what policies they support. At the same time the organization will lack direction due to leadership. Look at what's happened politically, and I really don't think much of what's happened will have a positive impact on black lives much.

[Kich867]

Originally Posted by Vanin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So ALM is racist if we don't subtract bugs? As someone who has found ants to be fascinating their whole life I find this to be offensive.

ALM isn't inherently racist, it's dismissive, it's a retort that doesn't mean anything. BLM has an implicit "Too" at the end--Black Lives Matter Too.

If you sat down for dinner with your family and everyone gets a meal except you, and you say "Hey I need food", and someone responds "Everyone needs food". They're not wrong, but they're not being fuckin helpful either because you still don't have any food.

[DoodyLich666]

No lives matter
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hlk7o5T56iw

[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by Woke Locc [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Four Kinds of Dystopia

The twentieth century saw four basic visions of hell on earth, or dystopia. These were:

Orwellian. Rule by autocratic totalitarian people, party or elite group. Limitation of choice, repression of speech and repression of minorities. Belief in order, routine and rational-morality. Erotic physicality and sexual freedom suppressed through violent control of sexual impulse. Constant surveillance and constant censorship. Control of bodies by enclosure, fear, explicit, violent, repression of dissent and forced obedience to ‘the party line’ (orwellian fanaticism: All must submit). Control of minds by explicitly policing, limiting and punishing subversive language (orwellian newspeak: state-controlled reduction of vocabulary to limit range of thought). Truth cannot be known (aka hyper-relativism or postmodernism); and therefore we need an external authority to decide what the truth is (kings and priests) and to protect society from chaos and madness (the orwellian them: commies, anarchists, extremists, radicals, infidels, plebs, proles, freaks, criminals, etc.).

Huxleyan Rule by democratic, totalitarian, capitalist, technocratic systems. Super-excess of choice. Limitation of access to speech platforms. Assimilation of minorities (via tokenism), foundational belief in emotional-morality, ‘imagination’ and ‘flexibility’. Control by desire, debt, narcotic, technical necessity and implicit threat of violence. No overt control of dissent (system selects for system-friendly voices and unconscious self-censorship). Erotic physicality and sexual freedom suppressed via promotion of pornographic sensuality, promiscuity and dissolution. Control of bodies through pleasure and addiction to pleasure. Control of minds by proliferating information and enclosing language within professional boundaries (Illichian Newspeak, or Uniquack). Truth can be intellectually known (the religion of scientism) and is obvious when understood (huxleyan fanaticism: only the wicked can refuse it) and learnt in the process of setting up an internal authority (aka morality or conscience) called ‘education’.

Kafkaesque Rule by bureaucracy. Control of populace (and of nature) through putting them into writing; fixing names, surveying land, standardising measures, tracking movement, quantifying, measuring and recording everything that happens everywhere, thereby abstracting it and making it manageable, which, in itself, induces tractable stress and the schizoid, self-regulating self-consciousness (anxiety about low marks, unlikes, official judgements and the like) of the bureaucratically surveilled. In addiction, bureaucratic functions and practices in an expanding abstract system are increasingly designed to manage their own abstract output. Having less and less to do with the actual lives of those who engage with it bureaucratic tasks necessarily become frustrating, interminable, dehumanising and pointless; a state of affairs which is permitted, and even encouraged, as it automatically grinds down those who threaten management; the informal, the illiterate, the spontaneous, the shifting, the weird, the local, the private, the embodied and all those who seek to have a direct relationship with their fellows; all of which is intolerable to kafkaesque systems, which promote into power hyper-normal functionaries who seek an indirect relationship with their fellows and who, through fear of life, seek to control it through the flow of paperwork.

Phildickian Rule by replacing reality with an abstract, ersatz virtual image of it. This technique of social control began with literacy1—and the creation of written symbols, which devalued soft conscious sensuous inspiration, fostered a private (reader-text) interaction with society, created the illusion that language is a thing, that meaning can be stored, owned and perfectly duplicated, that elite-language is standard and so on—and ended with virtuality—the conversion of classrooms, offices, prisons, shops and similar social spaces into ‘immersive’ on-line holodecks which control and reward participants through permanent, perfect surveillance, the stimulation of positive and negative emotion, offers of godlike powers, and threats to nonconformists of either narco-withdrawal or banishment to an off-line reality now so degraded by the demands of manufacturing an entire artificial universe, that only hellish production-facilities, shoddy living-units and prisons can materially function there.

https://expressiveegg.org/2017/01/03...inds-dystopia/

What is the word for a melange of all this simultaneously?

[Nilstoniakrath]

Originally Posted by Kich867 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BLM has an implicit "Too" at the end--Black Lives Matter Too.

What I hear is "Black Lives Matter More". That is totally racist. F the implicit BS, add "Too" to the slogan if that is what it is supposed to mean.