Faction Amount (Live values)

[LostCause]

i thought dubious to app takes the longest really.

aleast thats how it felt for me.

[azeth]

Originally Posted by LostCause [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i thought dubious to app takes the longest really.

aleast thats how it felt for me.

Scowl to threat and app to indiff felt the longest on my end doing cov to ally the past few weeks

[Endonde]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I did some faction testing in North ToV yesterday, the values we have on P99 do not match the NToV ones.

Trash mobs (baby drakes):

[Sat Aug 08 14:08:26 2015] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by -10.
[Sat Aug 08 14:08:26 2015] Your faction standing with Yelinak has been adjusted by -2.
[Sat Aug 08 14:08:26 2015] Your faction standing with Kromzek has been adjusted by 5.
[Sat Aug 08 14:08:26 2015] You have slain a wyvern hatchling!

[Sat Aug 08 14:08:26 2015] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by -10.
[Sat Aug 08 14:08:26 2015] Your faction standing with Yelinak has been adjusted by -2.
[Sat Aug 08 14:08:26 2015] Your faction standing with Kromzek has been adjusted by 5.
[Sat Aug 08 14:08:26 2015] You have slain a shard wyvern hatchling!

Trash minis:

[Wed Sep 02 20:27:06 2015] You have slain Yrrindor Emerald Claw!
[Wed Sep 02 20:27:06 2015] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by -10.

[Wed Sep 02 20:27:24 2015] You have slain Quellod Earthspirit!
[Wed Sep 02 20:27:24 2015] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by -10.

[Wed Sep 02 20:30:23 2015] You have slain Kalkar of the Maelstrom!
[Wed Sep 02 20:30:23 2015] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by -10.

[Wed Sep 02 20:30:39 2015] You have slain Zyerek Onyxblood!
[Wed Sep 02 20:30:39 2015] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by -10.

[Wed Sep 02 20:30:55 2015] You have slain Cyndor Lightningfang!
[Wed Sep 02 20:30:55 2015] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by -10.

Flurry Drakes:

[Wed Sep 02 19:56:10 2015] You have slain Lurian!
[Wed Sep 02 19:56:10 2015] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by -50.

[Wed Sep 02 19:56:45 2015] You have slain Hsrek!
[Wed Sep 02 19:56:45 2015] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by -50.

[Wed Sep 02 20:27:40 2015] You have slain Mazrien!
[Wed Sep 02 20:27:40 2015] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by -50.

[Wed Sep 02 20:28:37 2015] You have slain Gra`Vloren!
[Wed Sep 02 20:28:37 2015] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by -50.

[Wed Sep 02 20:30:08 2015] You have slain Nir`Tan!
[Wed Sep 02 20:30:08 2015] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by -50.

[Sat Aug 08 14:08:26 2015] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by -50.
[Sat Aug 08 14:08:26 2015] You have slain Nelaarn the Ebon Claw!


Raid Bosses:

[Wed Sep 02 20:24:37 2015] You have slain Lord Vyemm!
[Wed Sep 02 20:24:37 2015] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by -500.

[Wed Sep 02 20:28:37 2015] You have slain Lady Mirenilla!
[Wed Sep 02 20:28:37 2015] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by -500.

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On P99 we killed 2 Flurry drakes and 2 trash mobs (-120 CoV), this dropped some people from Ally to Amiable. That should not happen, most of the time you shouldn't even drop out of Ally, at a max Warmly.

If the faction values could be revised to match the live values that would be fantastic!

Just to clarify, all of the -50 faction drakes listed as "Flurry Drakes" are dragon guards, I would assume this is why they give a larger faction hit than other drakes.

One could assume that all non guards, and non hatchling trash would be the same -10 CoV, would need to get numbers on a normal drake, and wurm to be sure though.

[Man0warr]

Most of these Flurry drakes shouldn't even be on P99 yet.

[Daldaen]

Yea you're right Endonde. I listed them incorrectly in there. The real flurries are the ones I list as trash minis.

But the point stands.

All dragon drake guards should be -50 CoV
All raid dragons should be -500 CoV
Everything else should be -10 CoV

[Colgate 2.0]

those flurry drakes should be there, i think, but they just shouldn't be in the halls leading to PoM/triplets/twins

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Colgate 2.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

those flurry drakes should be there, i think, but they just shouldn't be in the halls leading to PoM/triplets/twins

This.

Hallway to Triplets should be safe and corner before twins should be safe. Nothing should path through there.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yea you're right Endonde. I listed them incorrectly in there. The real flurries are the ones I list as trash minis.

But the point stands.

All dragon drake guards should be -50 CoV
All raid dragons should be -500 CoV
Everything else should be -10 CoV

Bump.

I was Kindly to CoV last night. I took a single faction hit from an NToV dragon guard (which my live logs show to be a -50 hit) and I dropped to apprehensively. Suggesting the P99 values are actually at a minimum of -500 faction.

Can we get this fixed? ToV is destroying faction way faster than it should be just doing trash clears.

Any dragon guard (2 at the Lords/Ladies/Aary, 4 at Eashen and 6 at Vulak) - Should be a -50 CoV hit
Any Flurry drake or trash mob should be a -10 CoV hit
Any named raid mob (all with FTE messages) should be a -500 CoV hit

Currently the dragon guards and flurry drakes/trash mobs have hugely inflated faction values.

[Colgate]

can also attest to the dragon guards in NToV being very large faction hits still

went from high warmly (ally with alliance necklace) to about halfway through kindly after taking a hit from one of mirenilla's guards

[Daldaen]

People have been farming faction in WL recently, out of curiosity I went to live to check how big these values are and found them to be extremely lack-luster as far as Claws of Veeshan values go.

[Thu Jan 07 00:35:45 2016] Your faction standing with Kromzek has been adjusted by -2.
[Thu Jan 07 00:35:45 2016] Your faction standing with Kromrif could not possibly get any worse.
[Thu Jan 07 00:35:45 2016] Your faction standing with Coldain has been adjusted by 5.
[Thu Jan 07 00:35:45 2016] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by 1.
[Thu Jan 07 00:35:45 2016] You have slain a frost giant laborer!

[Thu Jan 07 00:38:47 2016] Your faction standing with Kromzek has been adjusted by -2.
[Thu Jan 07 00:38:47 2016] Your faction standing with Kromrif could not possibly get any worse.
[Thu Jan 07 00:38:47 2016] Your faction standing with Coldain has been adjusted by 5.
[Thu Jan 07 00:38:47 2016] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by 1.
[Thu Jan 07 00:38:47 2016] You have slain a frost giant sentinel!

[Thu Jan 07 00:36:26 2016] Your faction standing with Kromzek has been adjusted by -2.
[Thu Jan 07 00:36:26 2016] Your faction standing with Kromrif could not possibly get any worse.
[Thu Jan 07 00:36:26 2016] Your faction standing with Coldain has been adjusted by 5.
[Thu Jan 07 00:36:26 2016] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by 1.
[Thu Jan 07 00:36:26 2016] You have slain Frostgiant Overseer!

[Thu Jan 07 00:37:59 2016] Your faction standing with Kromzek has been adjusted by -2.
[Thu Jan 07 00:37:59 2016] Your faction standing with Kromrif could not possibly get any worse.
[Thu Jan 07 00:37:59 2016] Your faction standing with Coldain has been adjusted by 5.
[Thu Jan 07 00:37:59 2016] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by 1.
[Thu Jan 07 00:37:59 2016] You have slain Toxonomist Drorjon!

[Thu Jan 07 00:37:42 2016] Your faction standing with Kromzek has been adjusted by -2.
[Thu Jan 07 00:37:42 2016] Your faction standing with Kromrif could not possibly get any worse.
[Thu Jan 07 00:37:42 2016] Your faction standing with Coldain has been adjusted by 5.
[Thu Jan 07 00:37:42 2016] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by 1.
[Thu Jan 07 00:37:42 2016] You have slain Tomekeeper Bjordnessin!


[Thu Jan 07 00:37:10 2016] Your faction standing with Kromzek has been adjusted by -5.
[Thu Jan 07 00:37:10 2016] Your faction standing with Kromrif could not possibly get any worse.
[Thu Jan 07 00:37:10 2016] Your faction standing with Coldain has been adjusted by 10.
[Thu Jan 07 00:37:10 2016] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by 2.
[Thu Jan 07 00:37:10 2016] You have slain a storm giant escort!

[Thu Jan 07 00:36:19 2016] Your faction standing with Kromzek has been adjusted by -20.
[Thu Jan 07 00:36:19 2016] Your faction standing with Kromrif could not possibly get any worse.
[Thu Jan 07 00:36:19 2016] Your faction standing with King Tormax could not possibly get any worse.
[Thu Jan 07 00:36:19 2016] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by 10.
[Thu Jan 07 00:36:19 2016] You have slain a storm giant architect!

[Thu Jan 07 00:36:39 2016] Your faction standing with Kromzek has been adjusted by -20.
[Thu Jan 07 00:36:39 2016] Your faction standing with Kromrif could not possibly get any worse.
[Thu Jan 07 00:36:39 2016] Your faction standing with King Tormax could not possibly get any worse.
[Thu Jan 07 00:36:39 2016] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by 10.
[Thu Jan 07 00:36:39 2016] You have slain Lieutenant Krofer!


Based on these values... All Frost giants are 1 CoV, 5 Coldain. The Storm giant escorts are only 2 CoV and the storm giant named are 10 CoV.

The rate of factioning in WL leads me to believe the values on P99 are currently set much higher than the values observed on live with these logs.