starter points for monk

[gamewin]

Wiki says to put +20 points into stamina for creating a monk.

Is there a better alternative and why

[Troxx]

I went max str on my monk and have never regretted it. Worked fine for me all the way up to 60. Nice QoL.

Velious was beaten in kunark gear. Having 20 less stamina won’t make or break anything.

[Jimjam]

https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Blue:BiS_Max_HPS

This high hp monk build is still far off max str unbuffed even if it had dumped str it wouldn’t have been capped.

Also it is 20sta over cap.

[Solist]

Max dex. You don't cap it with gear.

It is the only tangible way to increase aggro you have when being relied on to tank, and once you're geared you're tanking most things fairly well. Nor do you have the buff slots available to stack dex with fos, nor avatar. 15 slot buff/debuff limits are important to remember when thinking about starting stats.

And JimJam, that is an abomination of a monk magelo. Noone in their right mind would gear a monk that way. Nor is it even max HP for a monk on this server so it's not even named right mate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Jimjam]

Fair enough, it was the first I pulled off of wiki.

There is another magelo for what ssouky was apparently wearing ten years ago https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Blue:Ssouky

This is a 10/10 split for str sta starting points. This one massively overcaps stamina but fails to cap str too.

[PatChapp]

If your poor starting out,str probably more useful.
If your twinked,the gear will make up for anything anyway.
Go outside the box and be a +int smartie monk

[Namsaknoi]

starting slightly from backwards:
Cha - mainly for selling, cap is I believe 114 to sell at best price, Crude Stein, Gypsy Medallion, Crown of King Tranix or Kobold Jester's Crown, Opalline Earrings and/or couple of +cha JC gets you there easily. Will you really put +20 Cha for starting stats on a Monk for Puppet Strings?
Int - You can get tradeskill gear easier with Wis as a Monk
Wis - Easy to hit 220+ Wis with chanter buff and Wis cheap/medium price Wis gear, harder/more expensive for 250+ but it won't matter much, and will you really burn 20 Wis for starting stats as a Monk? Other than Ring 8/9/10, and Coldain Prayer Shawl for Wis gear, why else will you need Wis for? Do you really need to sacrifice starting stats for it?
Dex - Proc and weapon skill increase speed, for skill increase I would not waste point on it. For proc, if you have primal weapons then it is irrelevant, Shaman Focus + Dex gets you 255 dex easily also. What procs do you need, Gharn's, root, snare, stun? Do you really want to use 20 Dex for that?
Agi - It is very difficult for a Monk to go below 75 Agi. Increase chance to raise defensive skills, but very irrelevant in that aspect, so easy to cap any defensive skills on any class on P99 or live, after that 9 Agi = 1AC ish. AC is pretty broken on P99, even on live I wouldn't burn 20 starting stats on Agi for 9 Agi = 1AC
Sta - Not too difficult to hit 255sta, especially with Shaman buff, you can also cast Spirit of Ox with Velious legs if no Shaman available, yet 20 Sta = 80hp, especially when you are on corpse run and naked, will benefit Mend also
Str - Also not easy to cap without NTOV/BIS stuff, yet again Primal weapons, Focus, Shaman Str or Druid Str, etc etc, helps atk and weapon damage with or without buffs up to 255, helps with encumber although you will be more concerned with AC drop from over Monk weight limited of 18-24 wt before that
Conclusion: If you don't need any extra edge to level slightly faster by putting 20 into Str, I don't think you will ever regret putting 20 Sta as starting stats on a Monk

[Solist]

Originally Posted by Namsaknoi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

starting slightly from backwards:
Cha - mainly for selling, cap is I believe 114 to sell at best price, Crude Stein, Gypsy Medallion, Crown of King Tranix or Kobold Jester's Crown, Opalline Earrings and/or couple of +cha JC gets you there easily. Will you really put +20 Cha for starting stats on a Monk for Puppet Strings?
Int - You can get tradeskill gear easier with Wis as a Monk
Wis - Easy to hit 220+ Wis with chanter buff and Wis cheap/medium price Wis gear, harder/more expensive for 250+ but it won't matter much, and will you really burn 20 Wis for starting stats as a Monk? Other than Ring 8/9/10, and Coldain Prayer Shawl for Wis gear, why else will you need Wis for? Do you really need to sacrifice starting stats for it?
Dex - Proc and weapon skill increase speed, for skill increase I would not waste point on it. For proc, if you have primal weapons then it is irrelevant, Shaman Focus + Dex gets you 255 dex easily also. What procs do you need, Gharn's, root, snare, stun? Do you really want to use 20 Dex for that?
Agi - It is very difficult for a Monk to go below 75 Agi. Increase chance to raise defensive skills, but very irrelevant in that aspect, so easy to cap any defensive skills on any class on P99 or live, after that 9 Agi = 1AC ish. AC is pretty broken on P99, even on live I wouldn't burn 20 starting stats on Agi for 9 Agi = 1AC
Sta - Not too difficult to hit 255sta, especially with Shaman buff, you can also cast Spirit of Ox with Velious legs if no Shaman available, yet 20 Sta = 80hp, especially when you are on corpse run and naked, will benefit Mend also
Str - Also not easy to cap without NTOV/BIS stuff, yet again Primal weapons, Focus, Shaman Str or Druid Str, etc etc, helps atk and weapon damage with or without buffs up to 255, helps with encumber although you will be more concerned with AC drop from over Monk weight limited of 18-24 wt before that
Conclusion: If you don't need any extra edge to level slightly faster by putting 20 into Str, I don't think you will ever regret putting 20 Sta as starting stats on a Monk

Ironically CHA is the most valuable stat for an endgame monk in BIS gear. Generalizations hurt.

[Toxigen]

If you're new and unsure if you'll ever even raid, STR, 100%.

[gamewin]

Originally Posted by Namsaknoi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

starting slightly from backwards:
Cha - mainly for selling, cap is I believe 114 to sell at best price, Crude Stein, Gypsy Medallion, Crown of King Tranix or Kobold Jester's Crown, Opalline Earrings and/or couple of +cha JC gets you there easily. Will you really put +20 Cha for starting stats on a Monk for Puppet Strings?
Int - You can get tradeskill gear easier with Wis as a Monk
Wis - Easy to hit 220+ Wis with chanter buff and Wis cheap/medium price Wis gear, harder/more expensive for 250+ but it won't matter much, and will you really burn 20 Wis for starting stats as a Monk? Other than Ring 8/9/10, and Coldain Prayer Shawl for Wis gear, why else will you need Wis for? Do you really need to sacrifice starting stats for it?
Dex - Proc and weapon skill increase speed, for skill increase I would not waste point on it. For proc, if you have primal weapons then it is irrelevant, Shaman Focus + Dex gets you 255 dex easily also. What procs do you need, Gharn's, root, snare, stun? Do you really want to use 20 Dex for that?
Agi - It is very difficult for a Monk to go below 75 Agi. Increase chance to raise defensive skills, but very irrelevant in that aspect, so easy to cap any defensive skills on any class on P99 or live, after that 9 Agi = 1AC ish. AC is pretty broken on P99, even on live I wouldn't burn 20 starting stats on Agi for 9 Agi = 1AC
Sta - Not too difficult to hit 255sta, especially with Shaman buff, you can also cast Spirit of Ox with Velious legs if no Shaman available, yet 20 Sta = 80hp, especially when you are on corpse run and naked, will benefit Mend also
Str - Also not easy to cap without NTOV/BIS stuff, yet again Primal weapons, Focus, Shaman Str or Druid Str, etc etc, helps atk and weapon damage with or without buffs up to 255, helps with encumber although you will be more concerned with AC drop from over Monk weight limited of 18-24 wt before that
Conclusion: If you don't need any extra edge to level slightly faster by putting 20 into Str, I don't think you will ever regret putting 20 Sta as starting stats on a Monk

Regarding Dex -- Im assuming T staff will be my go to weapon once level 50. Wouldn't it be beneficial to put the points into dex then?

By the way I have no plans on raiding atm