The Homeless Solution

[robayon]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Haha nice appeal to authority.

But yes, I have known and worked with homeless people. Many. So what?

Hey man if you aren't a registered MATHEMATICIAN you can't tell me 2+2=4!

I'm just wondering how you got so wildly misinformed about the causes of homeless and the true effects of poverty if you have 'worked' with them and 'known' them

And spare me the debate club garbage, nobody has ever cared, this isn't a formal debate and those rules are for the academic liberals you all claim to despise

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Gatordash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Point being that although giving homeless people shelter is a good idea to normal people with functioning brains, I'm guessing a lot of those homeless people like being homeless.

Well all shelters have a rule of no illegal drug possession and no drug use. So if you want to use drugs that means shelters are off the table. That alone prevents a good chunk from wanting to look at those

Part of the appeal of the streets is anything goes

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm just wondering how you got so wildly misinformed about the causes of homeless and the true effects of poverty if you have 'worked' with them and 'known' them

And spare me the debate club garbage, nobody has ever cared, this isn't a formal debate and those rules are for the academic liberals you all claim to despise

Nah they are for here to. It's as if basic rules of logic have existed since the greeks and romans. You actually think nobody on the right is educated? Talk about bougie and out of touch.

If somebody presents an argument, and you ignore the entire thing and just say "well YOU aren't a doctor", you haven't actually presented a counter argument to anything they said.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He wasn't getting rid of mental health hospitals, he was trying to make better ones.

Meanwhile ...

oh my god you seriously are going to read the links I give you then try to tell me that Im wrong?

Again, it was Republicans who kicked all the crazy people onto the street. Maybe don't try to prove the exact opposite of your point with facts that contradict that point?

Whats wrong with you is that you dont understand how politics and goverment works, you think that one side is the bad guy.

It's obvious that you dont care about anything but your belief system so who cares but here you go:

JFK REPLACED TEH ASYLMS WITH FEDERAL GOVERMENT OVER SIGHT WHICH THE GOVERMENT THEN GOT RID OF.

He shut down 500,000 beds and replaced them with a PROGRAM.

A program that like all goverment programs suffers from failing miserably at its job. (I dont care that you blame daddy raglan for it, its HIS JOB to reduce goverment spending )

People believe that the goverment solves all your problems then when conservatives use the goverment to get rid of your programs before they even start you blame republicans.

At least with their program, the homeless actually had care and shelter.

Whatever you dont care. Go on wearing your pink hat.

[Whale biologist]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

oh my god you seriously are going to read the links I give you then try to tell me that Im wrong?



Whats wrong with you is that you dont understand how politics and goverment works, you think that one side is the bad guy.

It's obvious that you dont care about anything but your belief system so who cares but here you go:

JFK REPLACED TEH ASYLMS WITH FEDERAL GOVERMENT OVER SIGHT WHICH THE GOVERMENT THEN GOT RID OF.

He shut down 500,000 beds and replaced them with a PROGRAM.

A program that like all goverment programs suffers from failing miserably at its job. (I dont care that you blame daddy raglan for it, its HIS JOB to reduce goverment spending you dolt)

God I hate how you people believe that the goverment solves all your problems then when conservatives use the goverment to get rid of your programs before they even start you blame republicans.

At least with their program, the homeless actually had care and shelter.

Whatever you dont care. Go on wearing your pink hat.

Reagan repealed most of Carter's mental health act, except for the part about liberating the camps and rights and crap. He then gave the states block grant $$$ to deal with it on their own.

New Federalism go brrr.

[Jibartik]

and suprise suprise california screwd that up?

Guess who didnt, the asylums.

You guy's are having the wrong argument, what you're arguing is that "the state could do a good job of taking care of the homeless, if there were no such thing as conservatives"

Yeah I agree. But with them the private sector did.

We dont live in la la land where there are no short bald people.

Blame dad or conservatives or whatever, the reason the ship sank is because of the policy JFK put into action. He's the one that got rid of the beds.

Dad just didn't get any new ones (keep in mind dad made it loud and clear he was not interested in getting new ones before they got rid of the old ones)

[Homesteaded]

Democrats try and seize power to control the populations. Conservatives don't like that. Privately run works more efficiently to solve problems 99% of the time. Very few worlds require the Gov.

[Patriam1066]

I’ve read that homelessness explodes as rent approaches 35% of wages, which is near where we are now. No idea if that’s true, but I don’t remember there being this number of homeless when I was younger. And it’s not like Texas probably ever supported the mentally ill (I have no idea, I’m assuming this state never had a philosophy of helping, could be wrong). Homelessness has exploded here. I told a guy walking past my mansion the other day that he violated the limes of my gated community. I’m nice, so I bought him some chick fil a and escorted him back to a more public and grimey thoroughfare

[Whale biologist]

Originally Posted by Homesteaded [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Democrats try and seize power to control the populations. Conservatives don't like that. Privately run works more efficiently to solve problems 99% of the time. Very few worlds require the Gov.

Private is cheaper for sure but I don't know if it's always better in all areas.

like that's the whole idea behind private prisons but yiiiiikes.

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by Homesteaded [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Democrats try and seize power to control the populations. Conservatives don't like that. Privately run works more efficiently to solve problems 99% of the time. Very few worlds require the Gov.

Do you think a private military could’ve won World War II? Go read about how the Romans defeated Hannibal. It was a culture of citizenship and a supreme militaristic state that kept western civ alive during its genesis

Hope this helps! Kneel before the flag and the holy Bible pleb